I would think Ivey could very well be calling down a bluff and still lose a ton of money. If Dwan has 77 or 88 Ivey still gets crushed.

That being said, they have a lot of history. To put in that much money with essentially bottom pair you must be sure that Dwan has air in a hand where he didn't play it like he had air. Essentially Ivey can't beat anything but a complete bluff.

Exactly, durrrr knows what Ivey has and Ivey has no idea what durrrr has.

Ivey has a hand that calls several people preflop, and then calls a big 3 bet. So he knows its not a good hand because Ivey always raises whenever he has anything decent, and he knows its not garbage because he called $28k preflop. So Ivey's range is any pair 22-77, and drawing hands like any suited connect or A-high suited cards.

The flop is all big cards, which is likely to miss Ivey and durrrr can easily rep a set here... now all he has to do is play the hand like he has the nuts, which is a set.

^Excuse me for being a nit but the nuts would a straight.

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haha thats good

i think its an interesting hand, but if its about analisis i think a much more interesting hand i the Dwan-Elezra hand from poker after dark when Elezra has 9-9 and dwan with a flush draw bets when there was 2 pairs on board, to me that hand explain why Dwan is what it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYzU9l2SnB0

Durrrr and Ivey are the 2 best deep stack cash game players alive, amazing just to watch them play and be in an age of technology where we can see their hole cards.

in all seriousness ansky does a really great analysis of the hand for deuces cracked in a vid.

basically kinda standard squeeze spot pre, they're really deep, durr has to bet turn huge w his whole range, and too many of durr's bluffs beat ivey (JJ would be a really good hand to bluff here with cause of nut blockers).

can dig it up if u have a membership.

Ya that's a really good one too, never seen it until now either. Anyone care to discuss this hand as well?

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OK...IM GOING TO TRY TO GIVE AN ACTUAL RESPONSE TO THIS

I think Dwan was honestly picking up on the general weakness of the table preflop. Laak opens & it gets called ( i dont remember exactly ) but maybe like 5 ways? Then Laak & Esfandiari start their jibber jabber which basically translates to "Oh my God Durrr pleeeeease dont squeeze!!" so then he squeezes of course. Nice play. Everyone folds. Except Ivey...he's h/u on the button, great hand for uber deep stacks. Ivey is actually rolled to play in this game & he's probably planning on not playing so straightforward vs Dwan who could obviously be squeezing with anything here. OK Ivey calls.

FLOP. A great flop that SMASHES the preflop squeezer's perceived range of top 5% hands. Dwan has so, sooo many very strong hands on this flop having squeezed with anything reasonable, and Ivey likely doesnt have anything that great having overcalled Laaks open on the button. Ivey cant raise & represent anything here. His hand actually looks like a draw if he raises this flop...and I'm sure Dwan would realize that too (although in this exact case he wouldnt be able to do anything about it, but I digress). So Ivey calls flop. Also, maybe Ivey feels Dwan will shut it down on the turn if he's airballing, and then Ivey can easily pick it up on the turn with a bet if Dwan checks. Pretty standard flop peel IMO.

Turn

Dwan barrels. I think this is the point at which Ivey really makes up his mind in the hand that Dwan is more likely than not to have a hand. Would Dwan really squeeze & then 2 barrel with the intention of folding to a raise? More likely than not, NO. He probably more often has a hand that he wants to stack off or get value with. So, Ivey considering that if a diamond hits river he might get massively paid, calls. And maaaybe, just maaaybe his Ace is an out. So Ivey is mostly just calling to bink off a diamond & hope to stack Dwan on river at this point I believe.

River

Dwan barrels. BUT, I should mention that I've watched this hand over & over many times...Dwan looks nervous as ****. He fumbles his chips as he collects it in his hand. He knocks chips off on the backside and has to fix it(i think). He stares Ivey down super hard to judge Ivey's comfort level before blasting away, a tell in itself (if you have a nutted hand you'd only do this as a reverse tell, you dont need to know how comfortable your opponent is, you just bet & pray for a call or raise), he stares at the middle of the table in a very uncomfortable way. Basically everything that has to do with body language looks very FOS from Dwan on the river. Ivey obviously has close to a nothing hand and can only beat an airball. Ivey is really picking up on all of Dwan's genuine discomfort and I honestly think that he was slightly leaning toward a call before his thought process got interrupted by Eli Elezra. Nevertheless, once he was disrupted, he tried to go back to square 1 and begin replaying the hand to make his decision. He probably just defaulted to, I missed, I fold. BUT if he's allowed to tank & study Dwan a few more minutes uninterrupted I feel like he was curious enough to make the call.

lol. why bother being a ****?

I also felt that Ivey could have made the call had he not been interrupted by the surrounding players.

best analysis i've read of this hand