http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEuAZ...eature=related

Most people are prob familiar with this epic hand, and I'd like to start some discussion to analyze what's going on in each player's head.

I assume that Dwan knows that he can rep a set of Ts, Qs, Ks, and even a flopped straight with AJ, while he knows that Ivey, having only originally flatted pre and then flatted another large raise IP, probably has a decent hand that carries implied odds, but cannot have a monster, and that is why Dwan knows that he can get away with a monster 3 barrel bluff. On the other hand, I guess Ivey just knows that Dwan is capable of having close to ATC because of all the dead money pre, and combined with the fact that Ivey flops tons of equity IP, he can call down 2 streets all while re-evaluating. On the river, is it just Dwan's image that even makes Ivey consider the hero call?

I wanna know what other people think about all aspects of how this hand was played out.

you wanna analyse a hand between two of the top 10 nlhe players in the world who have a tonne of history and meta? riiiiiight...

to answer your condescending question, I should clarify that while there are obviously tons of factors that went into both of their decisions, I still believe that what I'm suggesting is a worthwhile exercise because even merely speculating on why they did the things they did is constructive.

With that said, would anyone ELSE care to talk about this?....

I dont think it matters what anybody thinks of this hand. It was memorable.

Ivey played his draw like a little bitch

Ivey preflop: nice multi way hand I call
Dwan preflop: nice multi-way hand but maybe I can just raise and take it down if I dont well they will fold post-flop hopefully
ivey preflop: oh well I got position and dwan is a spew tard I call

dwan flop: I have nothing I have to bet hope he folds
ivey flop: oh I have a flush draw but im so deep... I call if I hit dwan will shutdown and I will make no money

dwan turn: I still have nothing I bet I hope he folds
Ivey turn: I have a floossh draw if I hit I wont make any money but I call

dwan river: well I still have nothing I bet and I hope he folds now
Ivey river: well I missed but I'm on tv so I will pretend I will call with a pair of 6 so people think I'm a god.

think thats about what the top pros think about

Ivey was beyond recognition in this hand. Any top high stakes cash game player would've raised on that flop all day long

+1

Are you saying Ivey isn't a top high stakes player? Lawl.

LMAO so Ivey is not a top high stakes player?

Ivey can't raise because Dwan is repping a set you idiot

so now one bet on the flop is repping a set...

are you disabled?

I wish I was good enough to rep sets with a cbet

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Thats why i said he was BEYOND RECOGNITION tard

jesus

Durr usually won't have the 22-77 range that he beats and also durr usually doesn't double barrel without equity since ivey's perceived range of mainly pair+straight draws doesn't fold turn and sometimes not river. That's why it's so hard for durr to have air here and durr also might not bet some 1 pair hands on the river since it bricked. While Ivey realizes his own range looks weak, the crazy turn barrel is the key here which advocates the fold (based on this hand only)