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11-03-2014 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DayTripping
Does ESPN realize they are telegraphing who makes it to the November 9 by showing those in depth features? Obviously they aren't going to send a camera crew to Europe and follow a guy around to football games who finishes in 17th place.
They did the same with Smith, and look where that ended up.
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11-03-2014 , 07:47 PM
^ tyty
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11-03-2014 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AcesAcademic
Sarra Jr may be an amateur but that river 3bet looked pretty good and showed he deffo has some balls!
Yep. Thats
was an unconventional move, gutsy play.

I think he pulled some other of these "gut moves" trough the tournament, (im gonna make his "All.." compilation later) but still cant understand that AT call, you are rarely ahead there.
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11-03-2014 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tuq
Likable guy for sure and afaik he played his last hand pretty much perfectly, it just didn't hold up. Although 1987 called and wants its earring back...
lol the earring gives him the edge

Great stuff from Scott though, emotional interview after, I was delighted for the guy he was easy to root for. Its good seeing those feel good moments even though he bust with his opp making that river flush, you could see how much it meant to him afterwards.
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11-03-2014 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GoingSouth
Yep. Thats
was an unconventional move, gutsy play.

I think he pulled some other of these "gut moves" trough the tournament, (im gonna make his "All.." compilation later) but still cant understand that AT call, you are rarely ahead there.


yes the AT hand was suspect but he did comment that he thought the other guy wasn't super strong, not the best call but I like that this guy isn't playing a super nitty style, trying to move up pay spots but instead going with his gut and making some well timed moves.

Only one that confused me was when he called a river bet with q high against the guy who rivered trip 7s
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11-03-2014 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AcesAcademic
Scott Mahins post bustout interview was emotional, happy for the man to have built some financial opportunities for him and his family!
Yeah, but then he goes on to say he was staked to some degree, wants to play in more tournaments, and this allows him some breathing room. Sounds like those opportunities are to play more and lose some of it back, maybe get out of debt, maybe a down payment or vacation for the family.

347k before taxes
clearing what? 232k
and he owns what % of himself...
if it's under 50% he's getting less than 100k

Happy for the guy, but come on you still got work to do.
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11-03-2014 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by domda
When I saw this I assumed that it would have some relevance later in the program , maybe it was supposed to have been edited out and never was but yes it was weird especially since the average viewer this show is aimed at will have no idea what it means.
Yeah they don't care, all they care about is they got someone calling their friend and telling them to wake the f*** up and get over here right now.
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11-03-2014 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RayPowers
I was talking with my wife on that hand and with the hands he was showing, I would guess that Newhouse would be expecting people to three bet him really light, so he was hoping to four bet someone off the pot for some free money.
He's been projecting idgaf in interviews, you'd think he would go opposite and tighten but looks like he's rolling with the way he's been playing. He seems to be on a mission to show his skills off, maybe he felt he didn't use them enough on the 1st go around.
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11-04-2014 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AcesAcademic
Sarra Jr may be an amateur but that river 3bet looked pretty good and showed he deffo has some balls!


Yea, have to agree that was very impressive, you normally don't see 3 bet river bluffs by amateurs. However, did anyone else find that river raise by Sindelar very odd/bad? I suppose he was going for thin value there and didn't ever expect to get bluffed off the pot but I find very few value hands that Sarra can have there that can call a river raise that don't beat KQ. The vast majority of his hands to start with are missed draws/air imo, could be results oriented but I thought it was a very bad raise personally. Essentially only folds out worse hands and gets called/raised by better, and as we saw here even allows himself to get rebluffed off the pot.
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11-04-2014 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RayPowers
Do you think so? Maybe I was thinking about the hand wrong, but I couldn't think of a situation where he gets called with worse except specifically the Ace. I was thinking check call may be better there?

Do you think it was that easy to put him on an ace in that hand and that he would call with it?
I think it was actually a great hand to merge with.
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11-04-2014 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jabawokky
I think it was actually a great hand to merge with.
It's not a merge, it's just a value bet. I doubt he ever intends on folding out better, it's just relatively obvious that his hand is likely good. Not that that makes betting correct, since not all opponents will call with high card hands and you might lose an opportunity to induce a bluff (or invite a bluff raise). It's just opponent dependent.
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11-04-2014 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CoachMcGuirk
Yea, have to agree that was very impressive, you normally don't see 3 bet river bluffs by amateurs. However, did anyone else find that river raise by Sindelar very odd/bad? I suppose he was going for thin value there and didn't ever expect to get bluffed off the pot but I find very few value hands that Sarra can have there that can call a river raise that don't beat KQ. The vast majority of his hands to start with are missed draws/air imo, could be results oriented but I thought it was a very bad raise personally. Essentially only folds out worse hands and gets called/raised by better, and as we saw here even allows himself to get rebluffed off the pot.
I think against a decent player a call is better, but i could deffo understand him there since Sarra Jr did call light a lot of time before, so he was probably hoping he would get called by lower pairs
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11-04-2014 , 09:46 AM
Yeah, Sarra even snap called with q high once. In retrospect I don't hate the raise that much.
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11-04-2014 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by zizek
It's not a merge, it's just a value bet. I doubt he ever intends on folding out better, it's just relatively obvious that his hand is likely good. Not that that makes betting correct, since not all opponents will call with high card hands and you might lose an opportunity to induce a bluff (or invite a bluff raise). It's just opponent dependent.
Yeah, my line of thinking was check/call was better there for the exact reasons you described.
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11-04-2014 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rubixxcube
Only one that confused me was when he called a river bet with q high against the guy who rivered trip 7s
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Originally Posted by KansasCT
Yeah, Sarra even snap called with q high once. In retrospect I don't hate the raise that much.
I was totally mcnabbstare.gif when that call happened. Clearly I'm missing something - no doubt because I'm not good enough at the pokers - but making a river call with q high was...?
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11-04-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by zizek
It's not a merge, it's just a value bet. I doubt he ever intends on folding out better
They join the hand in progress so it's hard to tell. But the call/check/bet line is exactly how he would play a five, and he can definitely fold out 7s-10s, and some jack hands.

I'm not saying for certainty it's a merge but I think it's definitely a possibility.
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11-04-2014 , 12:34 PM
It's a valuebet in the case that he's ahead, a blocking bet in the case that he's behind. The point is that he can bet only a third of the pot and with that get to showdown.
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11-04-2014 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tuq
Also props to Devo for showing no emotion nor saying anything to anyone after he realized the set would have held up. Had to sting just a bit regardless of it being correct. Then he busts like ten minutes of broadcast time later. Devo, Leif Force and Kyle Karanen busting out in short order kinda sucked. Dan Smith busting later on wasn't great for TV either. Whether or not you like him, he's legit and the field got weaker by him getting bounced.
Yeah, I was surprised all those players were gone. Didn't expect that.
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11-04-2014 , 06:51 PM
Just unlucky for Force getting AA cracked after 3bet pre and pounding the whole way. I bet he wishes he checked the river and saved 1.6 million tho, tough spot.
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11-05-2014 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by KansasCT
Yeah, Sarra even snap called with q high once. In retrospect I don't hate the raise that much.
Yea, but those light calls were made in spots where he check/called river. Think there is a difference between being a calling station after a check and bet/calling with marginal hands. Unless I missed something I dont ever remember him value betting a river light then proceed to call a raise as well. Just find it hard to believe there were many to any hands he could have in that spot which could value bet that river and proceed to just flat the river raise which were worse than kq...
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11-05-2014 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by craphoot
Weird that they chose to show Brian Roberts on the phone asking his friend bring pushbot charts to the rail.
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Originally Posted by domda
When I saw this I assumed that it would have some relevance later in the program , maybe it was supposed to have been edited out and never was but yes it was weird especially since the average viewer this show is aimed at will have no idea what it means.
It did, the shove w 10bb 8handed UTG into 7(6 if you count out the Brazilian who might not know push fold well) crushers is pretty lose and def not in the push category in the chart he was requesting. Its obv not terrible (losing little) but being in the main 3 tables left you might wanna jam tighter than Nash, esp with that many good players behind w big stacks as well
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11-05-2014 , 06:58 PM
KJo seems like a profitable shove to me. It's M4 and it's 8-handed.

But I agree that very marginal, folding is fine too.

Last edited by raheem; 11-05-2014 at 07:06 PM.
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11-05-2014 , 08:25 PM
Quasi enjoying the coverage. I followed along live the whole way and listened to pokernews and 2p2 podcasts the whole time, and even now I forgot two of the people who made it even when they were down to 27.
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11-05-2014 , 08:51 PM
my god..... the 22bb shove with deuces...
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11-05-2014 , 08:59 PM
re: mahin - guy made it clearly obvious he doesn't have a lot of money, which blows my mind that he dropped $10k on a poker tournament ( i know he said he was partially staked, but still stupid) and then you win enough to probably get yourself completely ahead in life, especially in a place like South Dakota, and you start talking about playing more tournaments. chances this guy ends up giving back at least every dime he won is very high.
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