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Old 05-29-2017, 12:31 PM   #1
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Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

Just curious how others would play this spot. Any advice appreciated.

Full Ring Live Tourney
Blinds
300/600 75 ante


Fold
Fold
3rd Position Raise to 1600 (52,000 behind) pretty tight. cbets near 100%
Fold
Fold
Fold
BTN (Hero KsJs) Call (60,000 behind)
SB Fold
BB Call

FLOP (5,775 chips)
Kh9d6c
BB check, 3rd Pos bets 3,100, Hero call, BB Fold

TURN (11,975 chips)
3c
3rd Pos check, HERO raise 6,500, 3rd Pos call

RIVER ( 24,975 chips)
4c
3rd pos checks, HERO?
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:00 AM   #2
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

I'd check behind.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:31 AM   #3
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

It definitely can be justified and it'l feel like missed value if you check and villain shows one of the pps in his range. Villain can have KQ here as well and you can't call a x/r otr. In practice I think I'd be happy with the size of the pot and check back.
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:57 PM   #4
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

Easy bet like 9k or so. You have the best hand here almost always, villain has nothing to be afraid of on the turn so no reason for him to not continue betting AK/KQ. Obviously he will have a scared KQ a small % of the time but it's so hard for guys to fold A9/TT-QQ here.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:29 AM   #5
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

I bet sth between 1/4 and 1/2 pot.
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:10 PM   #6
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

Checking is likely pretty BIG mistake, I'm with sippin on this. Don't let the fear of occasionally being beat stop you from winning more money.
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Old 06-03-2017, 03:04 PM   #7
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

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Easy bet like 9k or so. You have the best hand here almost always, villain has nothing to be afraid of on the turn so no reason for him to not continue betting AK/KQ. Obviously he will have a scared KQ a small % of the time but it's so hard for guys to fold A9/TT-QQ here.
I agree with this. What's your plan to a checkraise?

I'm talking myself into folding becuase check/call turn check/raise river to turn a mediocre hand into a bluff isn't something I would give most people credit for. I would expect most sets to have check/raised the turn if they were going to check/raise, but still think we are cooked vs his range on the end if we see a c/r.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:42 PM   #8
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I agree with this. What's your plan to a checkraise?

I'm talking myself into folding becuase check/call turn check/raise river to turn a mediocre hand into a bluff isn't something I would give most people credit for. I would expect most sets to have check/raised the turn if they were going to check/raise, but still think we are cooked vs his range on the end if we see a c/r.

Folding for sure just based on how often it's never a bluff. I'd say maybe 1/1000 guys overbluff when checkraising rivers. Usually for a guy to take that line he has to be turning showdown value into a bluff which also occurs pretty infrequently.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:37 AM   #9
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Re: Would You Bet River Here For Value? And How Much?

Can 100% confirm everything sippin wrote.
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