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03-24-2015 , 10:13 AM

Colinb7

adept

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 731

OK, so normally I just flat this, but villain is playing 42/25/14.3 with a raise 1st in EP of 57%. How does that change your decision and what do you think is best line here?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.45 Buy-in (25/50 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35638401

UTG+2: 1,653 (33.1 bb)
MP1: 1,258 (25.2 bb)
MP2: 1,178 (23.6 bb)
MP3: 1,944 (38.9 bb)
CO: 1,595 (31.9 bb)
BTN: 1,230 (24.6 bb)
SB: 1,464 (29.3 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,407 (28.1 bb)
UTG+1: 1,771 (35.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

UTG+1 raises to 150, 7 folds, Hero??

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03-24-2015 , 10:21 AM

TheEcologist

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 201

I 3bet this a 100% vs this type of player. Makes it easier to play OOP.

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03-24-2015 , 11:44 AM

Colinb7

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 731

Calling 4 bets if he shoves over 3bet? Would hate to 3bet fold v him...

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03-24-2015 , 12:13 PM

TheEcologist

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 201

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Originally Posted by Colinb7

Calling 4 bets if he shoves over 3bet? Would hate to 3bet fold v him...

If he 4bets then you need to have a look at how often he 4bets. I may fold if he does. Most fish are usually 4betting pretty strong here.

Just my line, others will probably disagree.

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03-27-2015 , 09:23 PM

bigscore

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,071

against this player i would 3 bet. i would also call a 4 bet shove here.
i think the push range is probably wide with a lot of Ax and KQ KJ type of hands pushing

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03-28-2015 , 07:53 AM

Scrudge

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 666

Just shove.

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03-30-2015 , 04:43 AM

Colinb7

adept

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 731

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Originally Posted by Scrudge

Just shove.

I did. Villain woke up with KK! I still think I prefer shoving to 3betting cod I think villain is the type to 4bet shove kj/kq.

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04-01-2015 , 06:16 PM

TomoDaK

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,837

Don't 3b/fold good value hands at these stack depths you just waste your hand/equity. Either flat or be prepared to call the 4bet

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04-02-2015 , 11:25 AM

LeaksSuck

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,859

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Originally Posted by TheEcologist

If he 4bets then you need to have a look at how often he 4bets. .

Your decision whether to 3b or flat must already contain a plan what to do against a 4b. If you're planning to fold against a 4b because you think this is the right thing to do against this player, then 3b hands with great equity like TT is a bad idea in the first place.
If this 57% EP open is over a reasonable sample, I'm 3b/c TT there all day. Against anyone with some reasonable utg opening range there, flatting appears best unless you have some special history that makes 3b/c better.

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04-02-2015 , 04:05 PM

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bigscore

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I don't like a shove here i think stacks are too deep

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