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04-23-2008 , 03:05 PM
Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $188.30
BB: $116.35
UTG: $218.65
Hero (CO): $221.85
BTN: $183.40

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K T
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15.00) 9 T 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($35.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $23, BTN calls $23

River: ($81.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $58, BTN raises to $144.40 all in, Hero calls $86.40

villain is 20/14 over the 50 hand sample from this session
he hasn't done anything incredibly sutpid i've noticed but at the same time he hasn't reloaded so he can't be too bright

his line obv looks a lot like QJ. i wasn't 100% sure he would call down light but i obv thought there was a chance.
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04-23-2008 , 03:07 PM
fold river he has QJ/99/TT/44 always, all you beat is K9 which he may or may not shove. someone post a hand where you have to call/shove so i dont feel like such a nit plz.
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04-23-2008 , 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by futuredoc85
fold river he has QJ/99/TT/44 always, all you beat is K9 which he may or may not shove. someone post a hand where you have to call/shove so i dont feel like such a nit plz.
river betsize is fine ?
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04-23-2008 , 03:14 PM
yeah, maybe even a bit smaller like $50-$54
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04-23-2008 , 03:14 PM
here you go futuredoc85


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SB: $264.50
BB: $267.60
UTG: $220.10
MP: $142.40
CO: $405.50
Hero (BTN): $219.60

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, Hero raises to $32, 1 fold, BB calls $30, 1 fold, CO calls $24

Flop: ($105.00) 2 5 T (3 players)
BB bets $72, CO calls $72, Hero raises to $187.60 all in


BB is 14/11
CO is 30/4 and is a pretty big idiot
the original UTG raiser is like taggish/laggish or something

i would assume QQ+ maybe even JJ/TT+ is definitely in BB's range.
as for the CO he could have a FD TP or a set obv.
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04-23-2008 , 03:17 PM
14/11 instafolds TT preflop usually. he will have AA sometimes and QQ/JJ sometimes but yes go all in.
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04-23-2008 , 03:33 PM
40/4/2.3 knuckle head -- paused a while before checking turn...do i just shove turn?

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BB: $178.25
UTG: $165.75
MP: $138.90
CO: $98.50
Hero (BTN): $258.75
SB: $72.65

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.00) 7 5 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $19, SB calls $14

Turn: ($50.00) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($50.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $48.65 all in, Hero...
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04-23-2008 , 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMcQ1
40/4/2.3 knuckle head -- paused a while before checking turn...do i just shove turn?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $178.25
UTG: $165.75
MP: $138.90
CO: $98.50
Hero (BTN): $258.75
SB: $72.65

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.00) 7 5 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $19, SB calls $14

Turn: ($50.00) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($50.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $48.65 all in, Hero...
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshipit
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04-23-2008 , 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMcQ1
40/4/2.3 knuckle head -- paused a while before checking turn...do i just shove turn?

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BB: $178.25
UTG: $165.75
MP: $138.90
CO: $98.50
Hero (BTN): $258.75
SB: $72.65

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.00) 7 5 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $19, SB calls $14

Turn: ($50.00) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($50.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $48.65 all in, Hero...
turn check is really bad, there are too many scare cards to come on the river that will make it hard for us to get value or give us the 2nd best hand. Call river as played
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04-23-2008 , 03:42 PM
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BTN: $200.00
SB: $198.00
BB: $302.20
Hero (UTG): $220.75
MP: $401.75
CO: $198.05

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, 1 fold, BTN raises to $22, 2 folds, Hero calls $16, MP calls $16

Flop: ($69.00) 5 9 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $68, BTN folds, Hero raises to $198.75 all in

Squeezey McDaniels is capable of squeezing light
MP is a huge drooler that has made stupid donk bets like that before
plan was to shove if squeezey mcdaniels folded.

this is mostly a brag post (:
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04-23-2008 , 03:44 PM
4bet pre flop, like $62so he will put you on a resqueeze and ship it in w/ 76s or something. as played flop is good.
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04-23-2008 , 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by futuredoc85
4bet pre flop, like $62so he will put you on a resqueeze and ship it in w/ 76s or something. as played flop is good.
i thot bout that but i didn't want to lose the drooler + the fact i'm utg decreases the chance he's doing it *that* light. is that make sense?
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04-23-2008 , 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by futuredoc85
4bet pre flop, like $62so he will put you on a resqueeze and ship it in w/ 76s or something. as played flop is good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bengiec
i thot bout that but i didn't want to lose the drooler + the fact i'm utg decreases the chance he's doing it *that* light. is that make sense?
Is "Squeezy McDaniels" a specific opponent that both of you know, or is this just based on *any* opponent who we think likes to squeeze. Are there a bunch of guys squeezing UTG raisers a ton? I was thinking same thing as Bengie in regards to squeezing an UTG raiser lightly. I like the 4-bet though in the sense that I *don't* want to play the pot OOP vs 2 opponents regardless if one is a drooler.
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04-23-2008 , 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMcQ1
40/4/2.3 knuckle head -- paused a while before checking turn...do i just shove turn?

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BB: $178.25
UTG: $165.75
MP: $138.90
CO: $98.50
Hero (BTN): $258.75
SB: $72.65

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.00) 7 5 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $19, SB calls $14

Turn: ($50.00) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($50.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $48.65 all in, Hero...
keep pounding him on the turn. f him if he turned the nuts. Start worrying about the flush when the 4th heart comes. call that ish on the river.

like the flop rr for sure.
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04-23-2008 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bengiec
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Hero (SB): $231.05
BB: $235.00
UTG: $397.55
MP: $201.45
CO: $236.40
BTN: $194.00

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A K
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $8, 1 fold

Flop: ($22.00) A 7 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, BB raises to $34, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($90.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $46, Hero calls $46

River: ($182.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $145 all in, Hero folds


villain is 17/16 over decent sample. we haven't tangled mucho.

i thought this was kind of standard till i thought about my turn play. i think that he is betting the river too much after the c/r and turn bet to make a turn call profitable. thoughts ?
These suck so bad. What is a 17/16 limping with UTG? not much. Especially if someone at the table is "punishing limpers" a lot, wink-wink. But he didn't re-pop us PF. We're really only beating a bluff since AQ got there. I usually donkishly call the c-r to see if they slow down and evaluate the turn. But I'd fold the turn now.
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04-23-2008 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMcQ1
23/8/2.3 118 hands....
earlier I check/raised him in a 3bet pot with TT on a 78cc5 baord and he had AA. He's MrTeddyKGB or somn.

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UTG: $175.55
CO: $178.25
BTN: $133.60
Hero (SB): $207.60
BB: $17.20

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J J
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, BTN calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, UTG calls $8, 1 fold

Flop: ($23.00) 3 A T (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($51.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $35, UTG calls $35

River: ($121.00) K (2 players)
Hero...
Quote:
Originally Posted by bengiec
i would raise more PF. my default is 3bb + 1bb for being OOP (except when hu) then +1bb for each limper, so we have a raise of 6bb or $12.

i would def cbet this flop, we have impetus and have shown a fair amount of strength from our preflop line. at first i did not like your turn bet, but i think it's ok. if we c/r we represent a huge hand when we only have a really big hand, our line doesn't look that believable. as played i would go ahead and donk the river for like 71 or something. i can't think of a single Q mrteddykgb would have in his range at this point (i don't think he limp/calls AQ, he might tho)
He didn't Limp/Call, he minraised UTG (this is 100nl with deep stacks). I agree $12 minimum PF, and usually do, but his minraise UTG was a "WTF" and made me spazz.

I bet ~$50 on the river wondering what I should be doing there since he minraised UTG I did think AQ or another Q could be there, and was planning on folding to a shove. Does his minraise change anything for you?
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04-23-2008 , 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GtrHtr
keep pounding him on the turn. f him if he turned the nuts. Start worrying about the flush when the 4th heart comes. call that ish on the river.

like the flop rr for sure.
I'm the ghey. When I bet it has to be a shove, so I spazzed and out-thunked myself thinking he wouldn't call with a hand I beat there and his long check was weird since he called the flop so quickly, so I took the stupid risk and checked 'cuz I had a . LOL I suck. He'd snap call with two pair there. I called, he had QThh.
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04-23-2008 , 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bengiec
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SB: $188.30
BB: $116.35
UTG: $218.65
Hero (CO): $221.85
BTN: $183.40

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K T
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15.00) 9 T 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($35.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $23, BTN calls $23

River: ($81.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $58, BTN raises to $144.40 all in, Hero calls $86.40

villain is 20/14 over the 50 hand sample from this session
he hasn't done anything incredibly sutpid i've noticed but at the same time he hasn't reloaded so he can't be too bright

his line obv looks a lot like QJ. i wasn't 100% sure he would call down light but i obv thought there was a chance.
Good hands Bengie. When he flat calls the turn I start thinking top-two isn't so great. With that we still have to bet. He calls again is weird 'cuz draws just aren't real obvious there except for QJ or a stupid 78. If I bet river it would be with the intention of folding. But I was thinking check/call as an option, but Bet/fold looks so much better. $45 on the river.
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04-23-2008 , 09:03 PM
Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $63.25
BB: $39

Pre-Flop: A 4 dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 5 2 4 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($15) T (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($15) 4 (2 Players)
BB bets $8, Hero raises to $55.75 and is All-In


How is this? villain was calling 50% of hands OOP and 3betting 25%. his aggresion frequencie is 66%
I run at 40/33/5 or something. He is still calling with a ton of worse 4's right?

Last edited by Staafy; 04-23-2008 at 09:09 PM.
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04-23-2008 , 09:07 PM
and any T and lots of 5s and any overpair. play it like that every time
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04-23-2008 , 09:10 PM
A lot of talk about eeking out river value.
Villain 42/9/4.7 Donks a lot and seen him make bad calls on river with weak made hands. Vs anybody else I would never raise the river but my question is:
even though I know this opponent is capable of making horrible calls, should I still just call? fwiw his strong hands he bets fairly big.
I think I should still just call even with all this information...my biggest worry is that he overvalues his 9x and re-raises me.

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CO: $109.90
BTN: $187.35
SB: $56.30
BB: $433.65
UTG: $172.00
Hero (MP): $123.90

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with K Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 9 9 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($28.50) T (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($48.50) J (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $15

Last edited by MikeMcQ1; 04-23-2008 at 09:18 PM.
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04-23-2008 , 09:15 PM
eeking out value? you have a straight you should raise this river vs anyone, especially vs such an obvious blocking bet.
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04-23-2008 , 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by futuredoc85
eeking out value? you have a straight you should raise this river vs anyone, especially vs such an obvious blocking bet.
Raise/fold? How much?
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04-23-2008 , 09:26 PM
id usually make it $30 and fold to a shove
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04-24-2008 , 01:42 AM
only 2 orbits at this table. utg is 35/35/6 and has shown down one hand -a flopped set he stacked a donk with. co is 28/22/1.2, no reads. sb is 42/19/1.7. i'm running 16/14, and i need a plan.

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BTN: $292.40
SB: $38.00
Hero (BB): $205.00
UTG: $524.35
CO: $96.80

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with T T
UTG raises to $7, CO calls $7, 1 fold, SB calls $6, Hero ?
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