I know what you're doing but I think there is more value in leading or raising smaller to give the guy a chance to think he has FE and raise you. By doing this, he *may* call *if* he has an overpair, but you also give him a greater chance of folding and absolutely no chance of playing back at you. The term "standard TAG" isn't very specific. I like this better vs a TAG NIT who is more likely to have the overpair.

Maybe this is where you show your hand when they fold.

Call oop with a suited, potentially dominated ace to let a limper in?

Here is a spot I often am tempted to rr cause I think button's range is wide and my hand is suited and ahead of his range, but I want to play with the tard. I think this is a spot that is standard to rr at nl 200 right now and that may be wrong.

Raiser is 22/22/4/65h
Limper is 67/11/0.3/10h

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MP: $169.00
CO: $233.65
BTN: $220.30
Hero (SB): $195.00
BB: $204.35
UTG: $204.70

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A J
2 folds, CO calls $2, BTN raises to $9, Hero calls $8, 1 fold, CO calls $7

Flop: ($29.00) A 8 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $27, Hero calls $27, CO folds

Turn: ($83.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $56, BTN folds

Preflop, what do you think? Would you ever flat AKs?

Check call flop? Anyone lead or have the balls to rr flop, with AQ or AK, may be good.

Turn lead for value good?

Karp,

I'd prefer just a standard raise.


MadScientist,

I like your line... sometimes RR pre. Just depends on a bunch of things, not the least of which is just whether or not I happen to feel like re-raising.

looks good to me. I'd mostly flat pf as I think AJ is over rated but w/e. I'll 3 bet there as a squeeze (not the case here) or randomly vs button. I'd ignore limper pf.

flop is fine imo.

once you bet the turn pot control is done and ur playing for stacks or folding read dependant. + I like the turn lead hu.

MS,

PF is fine, yes Id flat w/ AKs/AQs sometimes as well

flop is good, no way you c/r this one 3-way

turn lead is fine, it's gross if he raises though because you cant really know after 65 hands if he is the type to raise AxKh or AxQh

I would prob flat pf but rr with AK and prob AQ some of the time. I like cc the flop. Turn bet seems good after calling the flop.

What if turn is somn like 5 or whatever? What's the plan?

bet turn assess reaction. I'd bet turn but would still puke if rr'ed. You can't, imo, check the turn to give a free card on the river if the turn blanks. If like FD suggests that you call AQ+ here pf some and showdown you've balanced enough to mostly prevent getting played on the turn if villain is paying attention. If he's not paying attention, you can rely on the fact that most of his range here is bumping up the pot with flush draws.

Madsci - I play that hand just like that a lot and I'm not puking on the turn if he raises either with that turn card or a blank. If it happens on 5c, I happily fold and if it happens on Jh I get it in and w/e I'm good enough against his likely range which can also include KxKh, QxQh, KhQx, KxQh,Tx9x, A8 and air as well as AxKh and AxQh.

Nasty one.
No stats yet, just sat down.
Figured calling IP against an UTG raiser with the AQs is fine if I don't mess it up postflop.
But probably I did.
Turn felt close, but my hand looks a lot like a draw so he might protect with AK AQ AJ AT and probably also some pockets (that's why I expect him to check an sole ace on the river to make me bluff my busted draw, probably not a good assumption since he's unknown..).
Thoughts?

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SB: $201.70
BB: $45.38
UTG: $179.96
MP: $101.90
CO: $100.78
Hero (BTN): $98.50

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with A Q
UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 2 A 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($21.50) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($61.50) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $40, Hero folds

sence - if you're going to under-rep that hand preflop, flop and turn like that, I think you have to call the river.

id call the AQ river readless, if you have an agressive image or have been caught floating and/or he's a station id probably shove.

Why is everyone flatting PF? The guy obviously has a clue as he's 22/22 so he's probably isolating with a pretty huge range. I'd much rather 3 bet as we pick up the pot a ton pf and he'll almost never 4 bet shove with worse.

cause you're gonna lose 90% of the big pots you play w/ AJ here and there's more value to be had calling and playing postflop than stealing w/ such a strong hand here

That seems really counterintuitive. He's surely calling the 3 bet with hands that we have dominated and shoving almost every hand(probably not AQ and AA and sometimes KK) that has us dominated. If we call, I think playing almost every flop that we don't flop 2 pair or better or a flush draw is going to be tough to play. Maybe for someone that can play well OOP calling is best but for people that can't 3 betting is definitely profitable. Also, from what I've seen, random 200 NL guys with decent stats rarely get it in remotely light in a 3 bet pot on the flop.

the last sentence is the problem, along with the fact that I disagree a/b him calling pre w/ hands that we have dominated. Even if he does he will rarely stack off w/ them when we both hit the flop. As is, he's iso-raising a wide range here so we can c/r or lead lots of flops where we have overs, combo draws etc. and c/c pretty profitably when we flop a pair. 3-betting definitely shows a profit here and there are surely lots of people who are better off 3betting than trying to play OOP postflop. There are also people with maniacal images that can 3-bet for value and get re-squeeed on enough to felt pf. As a default though Im calling here the vast majority of the time.

200 BBs deep.

Annoying aggro bastard is 23/21/2.40 and has 3 bet me preflop a few times when I was stealing light.

Clueless Moran doubled me up a while ago when I opened AKs, another dude 3bet me, Clueless Moran called, I shoved, other dude folds, Clueless Moran calls ~ $88 with QJo His numbers are 49/33/1.14.

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MP: $100.00
Hero (CO): $197.50
Annoying aggro bastard: $218.80
SB: $306.00
BB: $288.25
Clueless Moran: $100.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 8 8
Clueless Moran raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, Annoying aggro bastard calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($14.50) J 8 Q (4 players)
BB checks, Clueless Moran checks, Hero bets $12, Annoying aggro bastard raises to $36, BB folds, Clueless Moran calls $36, Hero - what's the plan here?

any reason not to iso the moran pf? on the flop i think the aggro is raising such a wide range of combo draws and pairs that we are still in good shape. moran seems likely to call no matter what, so i'd 3bet/call a shove.

Could not agree with FD more.

Calling 3 bets with AT- is not that likely (except maybe the one hand AT) and mid Aces are the last hands I'd call a 3bet with.

BTN is a 50/5 and French, been at the table for 20ish hands. He probably doesn't like folding too much but I'm still not sure what he'd call the turn with, he does probly call the flop with A-hi tho. He has 70 left on turn, I never know what to do. He instashoved river fwiw

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SB ($208)
BB ($100)
UTG ($66.96)
Hero ($241.60)
CO ($18.40)
BTN ($78)

Dealt to Hero QQ

fold, Hero raises to $4, fold, call, fold, fold,

FLOP ($9.50) 766

Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7,

TURN ($23.50) 766A

check, BTN bets $25, Hero calls $25,

RIVER ($73.50) 766A8

check, BTN bets $42, Hero folds,

BTN wins $70.50

call

I'd lead out on the turn finnisher, is that bad?
If you just c/c you gotta call river imo.

So I played some LOLWTFDONKLIMITOMG today, villain and hero have a history.
While villain was still halfstacked, hero raised his 3bb UTG open up with the aces, to stack off on a disgusting KJT(two clubs) flop against villains set of tens.
Stats: 30/10 (only 79 hands tho)
We don't have huge bvb history.
How is this calldown?

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BTN: $98.50
Hero (SB): $110.65
BB: $97.61
UTG: $133.12
MP: $98.50
CO: $29.88

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 8 J
4 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.00) 4 2 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

Turn: ($20.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: ($32.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $12, Hero calls $12

Sence,

Seems very reasonable given his bet sizing.

OK thanks microbet.
Another one: Villain has raised hero out of many pots, seems like a pretty aggro guy. He's german and his name is oOUltraoO - an ultra is a supporter of a soccerteam who loves to beat up other supporters.
Stats: 62/1() aggression 1/2/4
Figured his draw busted on this river, and busted draws love to bet pot in my experience.
There's some tilt component because my twopair was counterfeited, but I just didn't believe this is runner runner trips often enough to fold.
Thoughts?

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CO: $162.21
BTN: $34.65
SB: $194.76
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $281.61

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 2 T
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.50) 2 T 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($8.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7

River: ($22.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $31, Hero calls $31

looks fine