can't use HEM HUD on rush tables when i use tableninja as well. tons of flickering and lag Not sure which of the two is more valueable at NL10 tho.

Hand 1: if i call i give up on every K,T,Q and diamond right?

Try visiting the HEM forums and doing all the steps for optimizing the HUD on rush tables. Try turning off the border TN puts on tables that require action.
If you use microsoft security essentials you need to create an exception for TN otherwise you get lag.

Hand 2 I think this is a pretty easy raise on the turn. At these stakes players will usually stack off with a jack and often with QT.

Is my thinking correct in these situations? Lets say we are playing 6 max NL and villian is either on the CO or BT with stats of 21/17 with a steal of 33 CO and 40 BT. Lets say we are in the sb or bb with no history between you two. Villian raises on either the CO or BT we want to cold call with hands like A10o+, 7's+, and KJo+, because these hands dominate there opening ranges so we don't want to 3 bet them with these types of hands because they will just fold there weaker hands that you dominate. Should we just 3bet alot of junk like 56o, k6o, hands like that because they are raising wide and will most likely fold or hands like suited connector 56s+ Axs+ , J10s+ only because these hands play good preflop?


Also if someone is 3 betting you alot there are three options you can do against this which is to raise tighter, 4 bet them, or cold call preflop. When are you suppose to do what in what situations? Am I correct in the thinking that you should 4 bet more if your OOP and cold call more if your in position? Also what hands should be be 4 betting with? Do you 4 bet with alot of junk like A2o+, k8o+, or hands like A10o+, 9's+, KJo+? If someone is 3 betting you alot and you are 4 betting them. Would you ever 4 bet and fold to his shove? Are we trying to 4 bet with decent hands to get it in or 4 bet with junk to just get them to fold? Hopefully all of this makes sense. Thank you for your time.

I'll give you some general thoughts but also warn you that I never properly adjusted to the 3-bet/4-bet game when trying to move up which is ultimately why I failed at every attempt to move to 200nl and higher where these questions really gain importance. (Maybe even at 100nl now but haven't played above the micros lately and not many hands even there lately.)

A lot of your questions in paragraph 1 depend on how villain reacts to 3 bets. If he folds a ton I would tend to call more with the type of hands that would allow him to flop a second best TP (things like KQ, AJ, AQ etc.) and 3-bet more hands like SC's and some of the tweeners like JT. If he calls a lot you can start 3-betting KQ,AJ,AQ for value and bluff less.

If someone 3 bets my LP open a lot from the blinds then typically I would first reduce my open size (2.5x or even 2x) and also tighten up a little bit. Then you can call wider with position and a bigger stack-to-pot ratio. If they're really abusing me from position and they also play well postflop then I would leave the table. (In theory - in practice I would stay and get raped and then prolly go on tilt.)

You can 4 bet bluff and fold provided you don't 4-bet too large considering effective stack sizes. If you're bluffing then you want to do it with hands you can't profitably call with. So that's going to depend on the oppponent and position and stack sizes. When I was playing a lot most tables played at 100bb, but with so many more deep stack tables in play now I'm sure thoughts on 4-betting are a lot different. (Meaning there are probably hands that at 100bb you would not want to 4-bet/fold so you would call but deep stacked it might still be correct to 4-bet even if you're going to have to fold to a 5-bet. And there are a lot less hands you're comfortable getting it in with preflop so you would likely be calling those 3-bets more often.)

As far as specific hands, you ask about 99 and that's a good hand to think about. Against a lot of opponents if you get it in 100bb deep preflop with 99 you're not in too good of shape. But you really hate to 4-bet/fold a hand like that. So typically you would either be calling (most of the time for me anyway) or folding to a 3-bet depending on opponent and position. If you do 4 bet 99 it's because you intend on getting it in and believe it's possible to get it in profitably against that specific opponent. Deep stacked I would never ever want to 4-bet fold a hand like 99 and probably never ever want to get it in pre either so it's basically an auto call IP or OOP.

When I was playing a fair amount you could do really well up to nl100 without having a 4-bet bluffing component in your range, and was told it was also true of nl200 at the time. So I don't know what games you're playing and how they play, but be a little wary of getting too crazy with the bluffs or assuming people don't have anything every time they 3-bet you.

That's a big question. It all really depends on how your opponent reacts to 3bets, not so much how often he's opening as just about any tag is opening wide enough from the CO and BTN to 3bet them lightly.

For people that fold a lot to 3bets, I 3bet wider and more suited hands like low suited connectors and Axs type hands, because when they do actually call these hands have better equity. You can still 3bet these guys with KJo, QJo, ATo type hands, but you need to be much more careful when they do call, because your profit is coming from them folding, not the equity you have when called.

For people that call a lot, you can go a couple ways. You should basically be really only 3betting them for value. But, the question becomes what is for value. You can 3bet high card type hands like suited and offsuit broadways, and just commit your self when you make top pair. Or you can just tighten up and only truly value 3bet them with like TT+, AQ+ (this is what I tend to do).

I like just calling when oop and keeping the pot smaller with AJo+, A9s+, KTs+, KJo+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 77+. (this is not an exact range obv).

It also depends on who is in the bb if you are sb. If a fish is in the blind, I'm more likely to call more and 3bet less of the in between type hands.

If the person 4bets a lot, I want to have a more balance range. I want to be 3betting hands that I'm usually just going to want to get in preflop. Like 88+, AQs+. So, pretty narrow.

All the above is for when oop.

On the btn vs the co, I'm 3betting everyone much wider. I've even started to 3bet and call 4bets a lot of my range, because people are 4betting so small and frequently oop that they are going to be in a lot of bad spots vs me.


You are right about the adjustments to getting 3bet a lot. The first is definitely to tighten up, then call more and 4bet more.

Very vague, you should 4bet hands that aren't good enough to call.

If they are really 3betting a tonne (and not folding to every 4bet), I'm going to start 4bet/calling like 88+, AQs+ for value (but not always AQs+ cause I also like to call with those a lot to trap in worse dominated hands.)

If they fold to a lot of 4bets, then I'm not going to 4bet much of my value range. More hands that have blockers, like Axo hands and maybe hands like small suited connectors that aren't good enough to call, but just add them in to keep my self with a good frequency of air.

So, what hands are too good to 4bet? That depends on position.

In position, T9s is the worse I'm ever going to be calling with, and this is going to be reserved for players that are 3betting 10% or more from the blinds. I'm calling JTs, QJs, KQs, against almost anyone that 3bets more than like 8% oop.

Against the really wide guys (10%+), I'm probably adding QTs+, KTs+, and most suited Ax hands.

And of course I'm calling with like AJs+ against just about anyone, and ATs a lot as well.

Out of position, I'm pretty tight. KJs, or QJs is as bad as it gets usually, and only against the widest 3betters. More often i'm folding anything worse that KQs.

So, as a standard I'm calling AJs+, KQs, 99+...then adding ATs, KJs, QJs and maybe JTs as they get looser and looser.

edit: after reading mike's reply I realized I forgot to address 4bet sizing and 4bet/folding.

I seem to be 4betting larger than most these days at 200nl. Maybe it's a leak of mine, but the standard seems to be about 2x ip and not much more oop. Guys are 4bet so so small oop these days, that I think their frequencies are going up because people are folding and they are laying themselves such great prices on their 4bets.

I 4bet about 2.5x ip and close to 3x oop.

The way betting vs me has been going lately is they open 6 -> 18 -> 42-45 out of position. This is where I've been flatting a lot more 4bets, because I know they are just going "!@$#!#$!" on the other side even if they have AK. But they have air so often these days, I'm having good success with it in the last couple weeks. They are c/fing a lot, or having worse hands a lot because I'm doing with with big hands as well.

So, when you 4bet to 2x-2.5x their 3bet size, you are definitely leaving your self room to fold. 4bet folding should definitely be part of your game if people are 3bet/folding.

Don't have time to talk about everything in here but saw this and thought I'd elaborate.

It doesn't matter much what someone's opening range is when deciding whether or not to 3bet them light. It matters a lot more what their range for continuing is. For example an average TAG raises 20% UTG but if you 3bet them in position they'll only continue with like 66+ AQ+ until you start getting out of line. So they're folding like 75% of the time.

Villain is 22/19 over 69 hands. Fold2Flop cbet % of 50 and Agg factor of 3

Flop: Looking back, I know my c-bet was too small
Turn: Should I always be betting here for value? I think this was my biggest mistake in this hand no?
River: With 2.75-1 pot odds can I call villain's raise with TPTK? I really feel like we are beat most of the time in this spot. Thoughts? Also, given that I checked turn, should I be betting here? Lastly, if I were to have bet turn, would it be best to check river?


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BTN: $50.50
SB: $16.00
BB: $97.00
UTG: $31.95
UTG+1: $50.00
Hero (MP1): $57.50
MP2: $74.65
CO: $5.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP1 with A J
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) J 2 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($7.75) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($7.75) T (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN raises to $15, Hero?

I think the flop c-bet size is fine. Of his drawing range at best he has an open ended which this size charges and we dont want to fold out weaker Jacks.

Turn I would value bet again a little over 1/2 the pot.

As played on the river I dont think we are ahead ever here with TPTK against this guy once he pops it.

he often puts your cbet on anything so I guess he is bluffing river alot

You will rarely get bluffed in the micros on the river like this.

+1 very much.

These spots happen to me all the time. Your line is weak, you run into some unusual aggression, fear you are getting exploited because of the weakness of your line and you get the urge to station it up.

General advice; don't station it up.

In general, people just don't exploit you that much in these games, they just do what ever it is they do. They might bluffraise your cbet because they are annoyed with your constant cbetting, but in general people just don't bluffraise rivers that much. I'd need a solid read for this ever to be a call.

Also, yeah, I'd bet a bit more on the flop, but its pretty dry so this is probably fine too and bet the turn.

if people at micros raise the river, they have it.

You are beating floats, that didn't bet the turn for whatever reason. Everything else that calls the flop with equity/showdown value either improved or still has showdown value. The hands that had equity and now have showdownvalue on the river like KT, QT and T8 are unlikely to raise the river.
ie. you still get value from all his showdownvalue hands, but you are behind every hand that raises the river for value.

raise more pf. bet more on the flop, no one is folding a jack. bet the turn, but once you check i would c/c the river.

You are OOP with one pair - and you get 3 bet on the river at 50nl FR, hmm tricky one. It's a fold 100% of the time. If he'd shoved, I would have been more tempted to call.

There is $27.75 in the pot, and you have to call $10. Breakeven is calculated thus:

10/(27.75+10) = 26.66%

You need to have the best hand more often than this to make the call. River 3 bets are pretty rare at 50nl, so to have any confidence in calling any individual player, you would need a huge sample size to work out their frequencies. Of river 3 bets, do you think this player is bluffing more than 1 time in 4? Unless he's a 92/60 lagtard fish, I think this is unlikely at FR at this level, so you can confidently fold the river and know that your fold made you money long term.

I think you have to fire the second barrel on the turn - that was the moment when you handed control to villain and gave yourself a difficult decision. If you get 3 bet on turn, you can safely fold without worrying about the hand. If he calls turn, you can check call river and get value from QT,KJ, QJ. If your turn bet is about half pot, I think you can profitable call even a 2/3 pot bet on the river.

there was no 3bet on the river.

TT makes sense and that's about it. But, it 50nl so it doesn't need to make sense. I don't think he's bluffing here enough, although I do think he shows up with T9 here sometimes and doesn't realize any Jx beats him. I'd expect JT to bet the turn a lot, and KQ should bet the turn pretty much always, but again...what they should and shouldn't do doesn't mean much. He probably has KQ here most the time, JT next and then TT and T9 not that often.

Villain is essentially random, 27/18 over 22 hands.

PF: raise is too small here I know.
Turn: Here is where I thought I made the mistake. Checking seems to encourage a bluff or for villain to bet a second best hand to rep the A. Should turn be b/f instead?
River: As played, can I call this? If I barreled turn, would river be a c/c or c/f?


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BTN: $21.50
Hero (SB): $52.50
BB: $58.25
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $35.05
MP: $66.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with J J
4 folds, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($3.50) 2 7 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($13.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero?

bet turn bet river.

I'd check if I knew he was a fish, but when people check an Ax turn and don't fold to a bet, they have at least an over pair to the flop, and often an A. At least by betting you can have air, and he'll still call with 7x, 6x, 88-TT, and draws a lot of the time.

As played, I'd be super tempted to min raise the river. Ax is pretty unlikely given preflop/flop and the fact there is two of them on the board.

If we're talking about the same hand Devin, hero bet $5 and villain raised to $15 on the river - I'm still calling that a 3 bet

Doesn't that change your idea of his range?

good that villain didn't make it $20 or we would face a 4bet - and a 4bet on the river is the nuts like always.
man i hope you are leveling

preflop: posting bb = 1bet, raising = 2bet, re-raising = 3bet.

postlop: betting = 1bet, raising = 2bet.

Lols,

I wasn't levelling, I really thought that was what we described as a 3 bet. Tx for the correction Devin. See what happens when you teach yourself poker on your own in the mountains of Peru!

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SB: $1.71
BB: $2.28
UTG: $1.72
Hero (UTG+1): $4.28
MP1: $2.00
MP2: $2.00
CO: $0.75

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+1 with Q A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, 4 folds, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.14) Q 7 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.12, SB calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.38) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.24, SB calls $0.24

River: ($0.86) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Villain was like 30/20 over 15 or so hands, and was Russian, so probably really bad. Bet river hoping he has a weaker Q and/or FD? Did I get too scared of 9x hands?

I think it's fine. It's going to be real tough for him to have and call with a worse hand. A lot of his hands that call two barrels (pair+draws) improved to 2 pair/straights, the flush draw busted and can't call. So, I don't think you are losing value vs his range with the river check.

mg

check back river is perfect here. Very little of his range that u are ahead of now calls and it sucks when u get min raised cause you will be behind like always.

Does anyone have any clue how many tables/hours/stakes I would have to play to generate 200 vpps per day? I'm trying to get to supernova and I'd like to switch it up from SnGs if I can before I slowly go insane.