playing like a nit probably works good and I only played a few hands so I could be wrong. But, with the auto fold option (or whatever it's called), min raising a lot of hands seems like it would be a very profitable move cause people are willing to move to the next hand right away rather than waiting.

This format might actually make the fish play better cause they won't feel the need to play 60/3 anymore.

Yeah but they will wont raise/steal wide enough.

I played 2 tables 6-max for an hour got in 545 hands. You can play really exploitable poker and get away with it like min-raise steals and 1/2 pot missed c-bet and just making your value bets bigger.

I will probably but in a serious session tomorrow evening and see how it goes.

Tried it a bit just now, ran 4 overpairs into a set in 10 minutes and quit, looked like fun.

(actually, kind of a cool idea, i'll try this some more soon)

A couple of deepish-stack hands I'd like thoughts on.

Hand #1

Villain is 18/15/2.1 8% 3-bet (almost all from the blinds), 25% steal, folds to 3b 100% (3/3 times all to me, including at least one like this situation)
UTG is 60/18/5.5
Villain has iso'd this fish multiple times (I'd guess at least 4-5 times and at a clip of close to 75% of the time the fish limps)

I'm not too fond of 3-betting AJ here when this deep but didn't know if calling, folding, or 3-betting was best. I'm cleary way ahead of his range, and even his PF calling range as deep as we are.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $3.55
MP: $19.75
CO: $63.45
BTN: $36.90
Hero (SB): $56.25
BB: $14.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A J
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $3.90, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.65

Flop: ($8.30) J T T (2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, BTN calls $4.20

Turn: ($16.70) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7

River: ($30.70) 5 (2 players)
Hero...

Would you play AA or KK here any differently up until this point?
fwiw my bets on these kinds of boards are almost always around this size.

Hand #2

Villain has less than 30 hands, he's 16/13/0.8 and has 3-bet 4 times so far (10%) all from the SB.
His big hand was nothing noteworthy, like AA all in PF or something like that.

Clearly I was merely jumping on the weak c-bet and was done after that, but how is the bluff on the river?

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CO: $26.95
Hero (BTN): $68.90
SB: $47.35
BB: $25.00
UTG: $51.60
MP: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 9 T
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.25) J 4 4 (2 players)
SB bets $2.75, Hero raises to $8.80, SB calls $6.05

Turn: ($23.85) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($23.85) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18,

Hand 1 is tough because you really don't want to play a big pot. I'd probably just call and let the fish stay in the hand preflop.

On the flop, I'd probably just check. Unless I was willing to get it in. Which it doesn't sound like you are.

As played, I'd c/f the river. There isn't much air in his range that can bluff and he's probably not capable of turning 88 into a bluff.

Hand 2:

obviously the standard line is to fold preflop, and fold flop.

As played, I think you can bet less on the river. Like 1/2 pot and get the same amount folds.

even this deep? i'm not one for calling 3bets wide in general, but we are deep and in position so i usually see a flop here.

yea, I didn't realize how deep we were.

Dave I would play Hand 2 the same Pre but maybe make my starting raise $0.75.

What about firing the turn ?

i don't think i'd bet the turn, people don't fold boats very often.

i'm at work so i don't have the hh. rush table so no reads except villain has ironman chip. .50/1, 200 bbs deep, AKs on the btn, raise to 3, bb 3bets to 12. what's the plan?

call, unless you want to get 200bb in preflop.

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SB: $1.45
BB: $10.15
UTG: $19.07
MP: $7.46
CO: $17.82
Hero (BTN): $15.45

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J K
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60) 6 3 K (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, MP folds, Hero calls $1, SB folds

Turn: ($3.60) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $2.30, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds


Rush Table, so no super good reads. I remember his SN from some other tables and he did play somewhat tight 19/13 over the 20 hands i have on him.

Ah, before I read the 19/13 part I was going to say raising the flop is probably good. As played I'm not folding unless a diamond comes on the river, and even then I'm looking at bet sizing to get an idea of what he has...might call, or raise if he make a blocking bet.

Preflop: I typically iso to 5bb, but it's not a big deal.

Any views on the new Rush poker on FTP?

http://w.fulltiltpoker.com/rush-poker?src=popup

Fun little hand I just played

Everest No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Everest Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($51.65)
MP ($25.05)
Hero (Button) ($24.60)
SB ($27.60)
BB ($27.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
UTG bets $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.50, UTG calls $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Flop: ($7.65) A, J, K (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.65) 5 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.65) Q (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $7.65
Total pot: $22.95 | Rake: $1.10

Just sat, so no reads.

-The preflop flat, IP, with a medium pair and no reads looks good to me, is it?
-After I get 3bet really small I have an easy call for set value, right?
-I'm never betting the flop or turn here, right?

So, easy game, up to the river and then I hit the nuts, the question is how much am I betting? I can't imagine both villains not having a hand on this board, but then, why is there no betting? So I'm hopping someone is slowplaying something. Slowplaying is obviously really bad on this board and bad villains slowplaying something makes me just wanna shove it in with the nuts, no way a bad slowplayer is folding a set here, right? At least... those were my thoughts until I figured I shouldnt scare them away with an overbet and just mashed the pot button.

So, how much are you betting here?

Thoughts on Rushpoker:
-Addicting as hell (too bad I mainly play another site and cant really get used to FTP software, so I wont be playing that much).
-How am I supposed to ever quit if there is no end-of-orbit???
-Playing without reads is hard
-Playing without need for much balance is easy

Jurrasstoil; I agree with devin on the not-folding issue, but even though I don't have much of an argument, I do think not iso'ing this small is a big deal. IME people (behind) just wont fold much to less-then-pot raises over limpers at these stakes (they probably heard something . We don't want to play 4way pots here. My results went up a lot when I started iso'ing less and sizing my iso's bigger (slightly more than pot).

Jurrasstoil

I agree with Dev as well and not folding.

How you finding the rush games ?

TT hand I half pot it, or even less. No one has much of a hand.

^ all this. I havent played much with deep stacks for a while and have been too busy with work to pay attention to this thread, but I played 2400 hands of rush poker last night and got into a lot of interesting (maybe just confusing for me because of rust) spots. I'll post some hands today.

Rush poker, so no reads at all. 170 BBs deep.

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Hero (SB): $85.60
BB: $85.75
UTG: $50.55
MP: $34.50
CO: $73.70
BTN: $40.60

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K A
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3.50, BB calls $3, 1 fold, CO calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) A 4 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $8.50, BB raises to $17, CO folds, Hero - whats the plan here?

Rush poker. No numbers on this guy, but I remember him being pretty aggro (maybe crazy) both pre and post flop.

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MP: $44.20
CO: $37.50
BTN: $42.00
SB: $53.80
Hero (BB): $64.75
UTG: $97.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A J
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) A 8 Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $3.00, SB folds, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $8.00, Hero calls $8

River: ($26.50) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $18.00, Hero calls $18

How's my line vs this guy? My thoughts are that by playing passive here, I get more value and dont chase him away when I'm ahead; and when he's ahead, I limit my loss. Does that make sense?

Rush poker. No reads. I have no idea wtf is going on here. 200BBs deep.

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UTG: $109.60
MP: $70.55
CO: $56.90
Hero (BTN): $102.70
SB: $96.95
BB: $37.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 7 Q 3 (2 players)
SB bets $11.00, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($34.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20.00, SB raises to $80.20, Hero ?

Was betting the turn a mistake? Should I have been more aggressive prior to the turn? Is this a fold or a call now?

Rush poker - no reads at all.

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Hero (MP): $77.95
CO: $37.75
BTN: $67.80
SB: $52.50
BB: $105.30
UTG: $170.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A 4
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.00) 5 4 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB raises to $10.50, Hero ?

Hand 1 I'm 3 betting and trying to get it in on the flop

Hand 2 Against an aggro to crazy player I'm probably playing the same. I don't think there's a fold on that board and c/r folding any street sucks balls.

Hand 3 I think I want to raise/fold the flop. On the turn I defo can find a fold.

Hand 4 Go ahead and try and get it in here. He has to have a set a ton of the time and never be bluffing for this to be a bad play imo.

All in all let it be known I only played 1 WHEEEEEEEEEEEE set of rush poker with full intention of binking $100 so I have no idea how these games play. I'm assuming everyone is fairly aggro.