You have 53 hands on the guy so it's not like you can soul own his 2 barrel with just 22 when you whiff the flop and turn. You will be check/folding almost every board that you don't flop a set. That means you need to be raking large pots the few times you hit a set.

I'm sure calling with 22 is fine since you get paid off a lot vs randoms. This guy is a random. Quit leveling yourself into folding monsters against guys you don't have close to a large sample on.

Do we ever just flat call here ?? If so, what conditions should exist for us to not raise here ??

Thanks


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CO: $100.00
BTN: $100.00
Hero (SB): $102.70
BB: $156.60
UTG: $141.80
MP: $117.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A A
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, [color=red]Hero

If you're a huge passive nit or the bb squeezes like 40% of the time or something dumb. Or I guess if the button folds some ridiculously high number to 3 bets.

thanks bones.. i will just keep raising and if they fold, they fold.

i have noticed that alot of people have been folding to my 3 bets lately.

do you think that is because the players are getting better ??

Variance/your image/villains/games getting tighter/etc.

prob you don't 3bet enough

Villain is 13/9 over 80ish hands.
How's this line?

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Hero (BB): $102.65
UTG: $101.50
UTG+1: $109.55
UTG+2: $158.65
MP1: $121.40
MP2: $106.95
CO: $214.40
BTN: $93.00
SB: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K 3
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.50) 8 A 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG+2 raises to $8, MP1 folds, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($19.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($47.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $29, UTG+2



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Table with quite a few solid/aggros (MP2, CO, BTN), and was in my last turn on this table since the big live one on the table, UTG (67/8 over 37 hands) was getting close to busto. I only raised to $3 so I could call a 3bet in case it comes.
BB is 15/13/ 3.7% 3bet over 313 hands, and quite a competent player imo. We've been involved in a few messy hands on other tables.

Calling his 3bet seems standard right?
I would expect him to c/c his whole range against UTG here. When I flat UTGs shove, I probably look strong, but he could also figure I'm calling since im ahead of UTG. That said when he pushed I got instant swinge flu, cause he's obv not shoving QQ here, and I doubt he would push AK. Which would leave AA/KK and we're pretty deep.
Any thoughts on the line, or is this completely standard?



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BTN: $105.50
SB: $108.10
BB: $150.00
UTG: $35.90
UTG+1: $147.75
Hero (UTG+2): $135.50
MP1: $112.35
MP2: $235.40
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+2 with T T
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $14, UTG calls $13, Hero calls $11, CO calls $11

Flop: ($56.50) T 3 K (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $21.90 all in, Hero calls $21.90, CO folds, BB raises to $136 all in, Hero calls $99.60 all in

1st hand I'd be trying to get it in on the turn before a random spade falls and kills all your action. Depending on the villain mayyyybe you can get it in on the flop.

2nd hand seems standard. I don't think he jams KK every time. Get it in and fade his outs.

so much wtf in these 2 hands.

1st hand- c/c, c/c, lead? Really? Was this your plan for the hand the whole time? If so, why?

2nd hand- Raise bigger when iso'ing the limper, especially when you're in such early position. As for the flop...well at least you didnt fold this time.

So much wtf in that response.
If you had taken a 5 seconds longer look without the flame-hat on, you would have seen I lead out on the flop in the first hand.
So to answer your question on "c/c, c/c, lead. Really?" No, not really.

It's fine if you play for a living and are a much better player, but please cut the condescending crap. I post here to get some good feedback on hands I think I may have misplayed or am unsure of, in hope to improve.
So if you're going to respond at least give input on what would be a better line. Thanks in advance.

seems like you post here to get confirmation that you played the hand perfectly, and if you don't get that confirmation your goal switches to convincing people you played it perfectly with your reads.

Lol Devin, that's fine, if you check last 10 hands I've posted you'll prolly have to chance your mind on that though. Wasn't even defending my play in any way in the last two hands I posted. But misquoting the line I took and going wtf on me is seriously silly.
I'm done with this thread. GL.
Will post hands in ssnl.

sry my mistake. bet/call, c/c, lead is equally silly. Prob more so. You're basically pot controlling the nuts when he wants to keep putting bets in, and you're doing it OOP where you allow him to play the turn and river pretty damn well.

I mean you post hands where you check back boats on the riv and when everyone tells you how ridic it is, you spend the next 15 posts explaining why its not ridic. Okay, why post it then? Same with the 22 hand.

I've been reading the thread, and reading ur hands. I've just not been giving my thoughts on your hands to avoid the frustration.

disagree, unless he is hugely aggro******ed postflop.

if he folds a tonne to 3bets, he doesn't need to be aggrotarded for for it to be more profitable. He just needs to cbet. And when he doesn't cbet, he just needs to call a barrel or two.

Dipstick,
Raising AQ there is bad without a plan which you clearly didn't have. I'd flat almost always 200 deep.

Deurdy,
Since you were getting 2-1 on the turn I'll def take a bet at my 1 to your 2. (This assumes it goes check check on the river or that you check call 1/2 the time with the best hands which I think has to happen)

KB,
1. Fold. Once you 4 bet call it off
2. Not that bad overall. Don't 3 bet flop to see where you are at. You have backdoor straight/fl draws and it would kinda suck to have to fold. Once the jack hits its a bit lame. You can fold turn but sometimes he is FOS plus you have some more outs now so call is ok.
3. Good till river where I'd ALMOST want to raise for value but call is prob best.
4.Bet 3x and you can fold if he raises. I'd be more inclined to check vs someone who can float/turn made hands into bluffs etc. That being said once you check turn cc 2 is good.


Deurdy,
1. CR turn for sure or 3 bet flop, prob call flop and cr turn then bomb river.
2. Ummmm you have the 2nd nuts on a drawy board where your hand in under reped 100 bb deep so ya call.

KB:
1. Once you 4b to 30bb, call it off. But your 4b is wayyyyy to big iyam. 3b is only 7b so you can 4b to like ~22bb here comfortably. Then you can atleast consider folding to a 4b but once you 3b to 30bb you're right ****ed. FYI, vs. almost any reg at 50nl, they will be completely inelastic to your 4b size (as long as it isn't a min4b). i.e. they will either 5b or fold regardless of sizing so make it as small as possible (without it being a min4b).

2. Is very villain dependant. There are some regs that will **** with you on boards like this because they think you will fold hands like AK, KQ, etc...If you think villain is spewy then I like your line.

3. Fine because he has exactly AA and you're priced in here and there plus I wanna spite draw vs. him because he is a dickweed.

4. I play it the same vs. most opponents.

have any of you just went on monkey tilt and just threw away 7-8 buy ins ??

I lost a flip to a guy who I have never won an all in against. (0-6) and I just lost it. After that I just said "f it" and burned 7 more buy ins in about 15 minutes before I just shut down the cpu.

this does happen to other sane people, sometimes, right ??

I would suggest trying to set some kind of stop loss. If I get stacked twice in situations where I "feel" like I should have won I just quit. What I mean by "feel" is if I'm upset by it. Possibly I got it in behind but am just pissed I hit the top of someone's range. When I'm running kinda bad I tend to put on the blinders and start punting BI's whenever I flop something decent and feel I'm ahead. When you start doing this type of **** just quit for a few hours or the day.

Also, if you catch yourself saying stuff like: "why the feck did i call/raise/3bet in that spot? I know i was behind/beat/drawing dead/not folding out better/etc. it doesn't make any sense whatsoever" or "i can't beat shyt... *clicks call*" quit and take a break for an hour or two because you are probably not focussed or way off your A-Game.

I have that a ton

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SB: $5.21
Hero (BB): $4.26
UTG: $5.00
MP: $4.48
CO: $6.00
BTN: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with J A
3 folds, BTN calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.52) 4 7 T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.12) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

River: ($2.32) K (2 players)

Does a third barrel suck here? First hand with him, as he just sat down. He's probably never folding any piece I guess. And plz forgive the micro stakes ldo.

i'd probly pot the flop then shut down. don't ever expect anyone to fold at these stakes.

DD I would CR the flop big enough to be able to slightly over shove the turn.
If he checks back it aint the end of the world.

this is a spot where I'd usually plan on c/betting and then c/r the turn. Or just double barreling.

But, once the 7 peels on the turn, I think it becomes a pretty bad spot to fight hard for this pot. I'd just check and see. If he bets small enough, I'd call...if he bets big I'd fold.

As played, the river is a check unless you are willing to just over bet shove the river. But, he's still going to hero call Tx some % of the time. So, just giving up is best.