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Originally Posted by DevinLake
45 hand, I agree he wouldn't c/c the turn with the intent of bluffing the river. But, does that mean he can't c/c the turn and then bluff the river? What I'm saying is the majority of players don't think about what's going to happen on the next street. They do not play with a plan. This guy is definitely a guy that doesn't plan his hands.
My point isn't that he would have needed to plan the bluff, it's that he played inconsistently. If it were in his nature to bluff, he would have done so on one of the two opportunities he had on the turn. Obviously there will be exceptions, but it does sharply decrease the odds that he's bluffing. If you asked me to guess, I'd say he had either a nine or A4, 64, 42, 43.
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This is one of my pet peeves with 2p2. I often won't post a hand that I didn't play standard, because I usually know what the standard line is and don't need 10 others to tell me that, while ignoring the interesting/difficult part of the hand.
In that case, you should say in your OP that you realise that the standard line is bet/fold turn, but you wonder if there's a better way to play.
jbrochu:
Wait, so villain showed up with KJ and you're wondering if there's any value in betting?
Diamond Lie:
$20 looks like a really weak flop bet, the pot is like $48 right? I'd bet like 30 or 35. I realise it's a low draw board but I don't really want two opps calling for $20. As played river is easy, easy shove. You're probably looking at worse two pair. As Devin said, I am not just shoving but fistpumping if he instacalls because I still think I'm good.
jbrochu again:
This could go either way. If you were CO and CO was button I would definitely reraise. As it is I might fold because SB is so unpredictable and might show up with AK or stack off with a random pair (which decreases profits sharply compared to all fold). I would be fine with either decision though.
cha59:
Fold. Versus an unknown bet turn is good, but check is better vs some players. The free card isn't as bad as it looks because you pick up bluffs from drawing hands or check calls from made hands on blank rivers. Versus a lot of players you have almost nonexistent value on the turn, which is always a good reason to consider another course of action.