Mike,

PF I prob fold, but I'm a nit. He raised UTG so he prob has a decent holding

Post Flop: I play every street the same. I might bet river like 18 or 19. Its a paired board and and the flush completes on river. You have a laggy image, but its really hard to put you on a back door flush there. Do you think villain could be raising thinking your line looks FOS (w/ AK, QQ, KK etc?)? I mean its checked through the flop, the pot is small on the river. Why would he raise so huge as a bluff? Doesnt make sense to me unless hes crazy

Any reads on villain? Have you shown down a lot of solid hands?

oh yeah sippin, pm me your PS sn so I stay off your 25NL tables lol

also if you have aim let me know if you or any of you guys would be willing to talk hands

Sippin,

I dont bet the turn on that board unless its another heart. Check behind. His stupid river bet is bc if you dont have a queen he thinks he can get a cheap showdown. I wouldn't bluff at it on this board though

Sippin - depends on the villain, but either you're gonna have implied odds or FE. Knowing which is more likely should affect whether you bet the turn.

I think villain is very likely to have a weak hand that still beats K high. 44/10 over a small sample isn't a great indication one way or the other.

It's certainly possible for a push to be correct both when you miss the river and when you hit.

People who say you have no FE are clearly pushing if you river a King, right?

villain is loose and doesn't like folding flops. He called a pfr w/85s, called a cbet, and then minraised the turn when his oesd hit.


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Hero (SB): $59.20
BB: $140.80
CO: $48.55
BTN: $9.40

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.50) 3 J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, BB calls $2.75

Turn: ($9.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

River: ($21.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, BB raises to $130.30 all in, Hero folds

lol, he probly thinks his flush is good. i'd call, given your stack size. if you lose, buy back in for the full amount and get it back from him sooner or later.

Mike:

The more I think about that hand, the more it feels like villain play it like a FD and possibly rivered a flush as well

um, how hard do you go at it this deep? villain is 30/5 and I have no idea where he makes money even over 100 hands. His usual line is to bet $1 oop regardless of position and then jam the turn or river w/ a psb. thoughts on my line?

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MP: $25.15
CO: $100.00
Hero (BTN): $340.90
SB: $113.30
BB: $66.55
UTG: $273.40

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with A 9
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($9.50) 7 9 T (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($23.50) K (2 players)
UTG bets $18, Hero calls $18

River: ($59.50) K (2 players)
UTG bets $22, Hero raises to $66, UTG calls $44

i think you played it perfectly, but i never find myself that deep, so i might not be the best person to listen to(among other reasons).

I might overbet shove this river. Looks a lot like JQ to me.

I like a bigger bet on river. He's not calling anything without trips, a straight, or a worse flush (unless he's crazy) and he'll likely call more with any of those.

Pushing is like $240 into $90 though - I think you gotta have a crazy image or villain be a big time sheriff to make that good.

Would it be a capital crime to fold the turn? I dont think we have the odds to call

yes. hero has nfd+pair+OC and stacks are 250bb deep imo

I could see folding. Hero really has nfd and that it. You have to heavily discout any other outs, as villain has played this hand a lot like the nutz.

Villain is your normal a-bit-too-loose and a-bit-too-passive for a TAG. Is the river a c/f, b/f or b/c? And why?



Waldhoffan ($98)
Firetribe ($98.50)
197789197789 ($113.10)
Dexter12012 ($95.86)
NDERPPZ ($165.52)
Momp ($111.15)

Waldhoffan posts (SB) $0.50
Firetribe posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe 5h 4h
call, call, fold, call, fold,
check,

FLOP ($4.50) Qh Jh Qs
Firetribe bets $3.50
197789197789 folds
Dexter12012 folds
Momp calls $3.50

TURN ($11.50) Qh Jh Qs 7h
Firetribe bets $8.50
Momp calls $8.50

RIVER ($28.50) Qh Jh Qs 7h 9h
Firetribe?

I think C/C > B/F > C/F


Its a paired board, and he could have boated. He could have caught a higher flush if he has like KhQx. He will call with worse here, but I think that its close so c/c is the best option here since it sucks to bet fold

JG - KQ - I give up after he calls the flop. I dont think 2 barreling is going to work because the turn did nothing and he likes his hand.

- AA - If you call pre, you must bet the flop, especially that flop. Any spade falling later will shut him down. If youre getting more from him, it will be now.


Mike - Jbrochu said almost everything I could think of. Small sooted connectors are so hard to play oop vs any opponent, but against this type, its even easier to let that hand go.

Sippin - what Microbet says is right, although at 25nl, these guys hate folding and like calling so much, I might just call there because its so cheap and youre probably good often enough to make it correct.

Gtrhtr - I like the turn call because even if you only have 9 outs, your implied odds should be good enough. I play the whole hand the same, but Devin & Microbet are probably right about raising the river more.

Karp - That hand is tough. I might check/call a small bet or check/fold to a big bet, but this hand is very read/feel dependent. I don't know for sure what I'd do without more info about the way the game has gone, your image, history between you two, etc.

doh i mean c/c to be the one option in that hand above

No mentiaonable history. Hero ran at 17/17 and people folded to his cbets.

If he is loose and passive and there's no history maybe bet/folding to a raise is best because he isn't likely to raise you without a heart and might call with a Q and no h.

i think this hand shows that i hate money. and i know this is a bit of a cooler, but how do i best avoid this?

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Hero (CO): $34.35
BTN: $24.65
SB: $24.20
BB: $19.15
UTG: $51.85
MP: $25

Pre-Flop: K A K A dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.80, BB folds, Hero calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.85) 6 2 K (2 Players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.85) 5 (2 Players)
SB bets $8.25, Hero calls $8.25

River: ($29.35) 5 (2 Players)
SB bets $9.65 and is All-In, Hero calls $9.65

Results: $48.65 Pot ($2.40 Rake)
Hero mucked K A K A (two pair, Kings and Fives) and LOST (-$24.20 NET)
SB showed A A (two pair, Aces and Fives) and WON $46.25 (+$22.05 NET)

you know its a cooler but you want to avoid it?

i'm asking is there a way you would play it differently, to avoid getting stacked here

Is there any reason to think you're not ahead on that flop?

I'd be getting it in a lot quicker than you did there.

you could 4bet pf and fold to a push, but i like calling in position myself unless villain is very laggy. after the flop, there is not much chance of getting away from it, but i'd raise and could possibly find a fold to a reraise if villain is very nitty.