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Old 02-17-2008, 01:12 PM   #826
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

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New to table...
Am I overthinking this?

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Hero (CO): $283.05
BTN: $17.30
SB: $94.50
BB: $56.90
UTG: $517.75

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with Q A
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) J K A (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($15.50) T (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12, BB waited a bit before BB calls $12, UTG folds

River: ($39.50) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $39.90 all in, Hero...

I believe I would call here you need to be good >33% and I think you probably are against a total unknown.
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:25 PM   #827
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31/14/1.3 af by street --> 1.5/1.8/1.5 ~200 hands
I'm like 26/22 and have been raising limpers a lot, I've 3 bet villian a couple times but not crazy...he's folded every time.

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Hero (SB): $192.55
BB: $52.60
UTG: $172.60
CO: $98.50
BTN: $559.95

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG checks, CO folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BTN calls $11

Flop: ($31) J 9 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($31) A (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $25, Hero calls $25

River: ($81) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $519.95 and is All-In, Hero...

Damn strange. Sometimes people do this with the nuts figuring you can only have a couple of hands you could call with and they're going to be difficult for you to fold, but he cannot have the nuts here since you have the Ks. I guess I would fold because there are plenty of hands he could have that beat you and you're not getting good odds.

Did you think about betting the turn? I just had a twenty minute argument with myself about betting the turn but it ended in a draw...
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:59 PM   #828
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

6-3 off is so AWESOME flop a 6 float it have a donk min bet to the river hit your 2 pair ship it in he calls with TP TK you double up and make the MONEYSSS!
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:20 PM   #829
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

Mikey - as I said on AIM but I'll post here - first hand I call for sure. Second hand I had exactly the same thoughts as jbrochu. I would bet the turn for sure. He can call with worse and you have a lot of outs to the nuts. The small pot would suck if you have the nuts.

her0carn - a post like that should go in the censored thread.
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:43 PM   #830
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31/14/1.3 af by street --> 1.5/1.8/1.5 ~200 hands
I'm like 26/22 and have been raising limpers a lot, I've 3 bet villian a couple times but not crazy...he's folded every time.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
Hero (SB): $192.55
BB: $52.60
UTG: $172.60
CO: $98.50
BTN: $559.95

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG checks, CO folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BTN calls $11

Flop: ($31) J 9 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($31) A (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $25, Hero calls $25

River: ($81) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $519.95 and is All-In, Hero...
i bet the turn here. only hand i see vill doing this with that you beat is like AJ or some other 2pair. fold as played.

i like your flop check, with the As i would cbet.

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Old 02-17-2008, 05:53 PM   #831
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

Is there a good article/post or could someone write an essay on table selection. I have 25k players datamined on my site and I have a table selection tool but I'm not sure on how to pick out my tables. Currently I have a points system that works like this:
  • 10 points VPIP 58-100, stack min 75 (BBs)
  • 7 points VPIP 48-58, stack min 75
  • 4 points VPIP 38-48, stack min 75
  • 2 points VPIP 40-100, stack 50-75
I choose the table(s) that have the most points. Should I add something to my scoring system?
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:07 PM   #832
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Is there a good article/post or could someone write an essay on table selection. I have 25k players datamined on my site and I have a table selection tool but I'm not sure on how to pick out my tables. Currently I have a points system that works like this:
  • 10 points VPIP 58-100, stack min 75 (BBs)
  • 7 points VPIP 48-58, stack min 75
  • 4 points VPIP 38-48, stack min 75
  • 2 points VPIP 40-100, stack 50-75
I choose the table(s) that have the most points. Should I add something to my scoring system?
This is way more elaborate than what I do and I think I table select more than most. Your system looks really good to me. Looks like you should be giving us a tutorial about the software you use and how to set up your system on it Karp

edit - Can you use PFR% in your point system?
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This is way more elaborate than what I do and I think I table select more than most. Your system looks really good to me. Looks like you should be giving us a tutorial about the software you use and how to set up your system on it Karp

edit - Can you use PFR% in your point system?
Available stats are
  • VPIP
  • PFR
  • AF
  • WTSD
  • WSD
  • Stack size
  • # of hands
Forgot to mention that I use minimum 75 hands for each category. The software that I use is Eyepoker. Spade-eye probably has it too. The points system is really easy to set up. It's in the options. After scanning the tables just rate tables on their points scored.
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:21 PM   #834
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Available stats are
  • VPIP
  • PFR
  • AF
  • WTSD
  • WSD
  • Stack size
  • # of hands
Forgot to mention that I use minimum 75 hands for each category. The software that I use is Eyepoker. Spade-eye probably has it too. The points system is really easy to set up. It's in the options. After scanning the tables just rate tables on their points scored.
how much is each value weighted ?
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Old 02-17-2008, 07:00 PM   #835
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how much is each value weighted ?
You weight it. Like you can give 13 points to a player with 78-99 VPIP who has minimum 150 hands and who goes to showdown atleast 34% of the time.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:35 PM   #836
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

Getting a good table is important but where you sit is equally important. I won't stay at a table any longer with one of those 60 vpip passive calling station types on my immediate left. They just screw my game up too much. Get that sucker on your right and a couple of tight unimaginative players on your left and now you're styling.

I'm sure you guys already know this but for some reason until lately I would hang around too long in bad situations instead of hunting for good seats.
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

karp,

Maybe you don't have enough data to make this a good idea, but you could look through your PT and look at the stats for players who you are up a lot of money on.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:06 PM   #838
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

Okay since the closest decisions matter the least I'm gonna post some common spots that come up often and might lead to major leaks in one's bankroll. Stay with with me.

All events occur on on NL100 6max tables with 100xBBs unless otherwise stated.

COMMON SPOT UNO

2 fold
Hero raises to $4 9 8
Button calls
Blinds fold

Flop: K Q 2
Hero bets $7
Button calls

Turn: 3
Hero's plan?
(if Hero checks and if Villain bets it's 2/3 pot)

Villain is
  1. LAG
  2. TAG
  3. LAP
  4. Unknown
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:08 PM   #839
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

Karp, for every one of those opponents I would lead right out again for close to full pot so I can set up a shove on the river.
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Re: STTF SNG -> Cash Thread #2

Mike,
Call river with the straight.
Bet turn with As Kc. As played I would fold the river you only beat a bluff, but I would bet it as well and let every two pair or other stupid hands call.

Karp,
I bet the turn vs. everyone.


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Getting a good table is important but where you sit is equally important. I won't stay at a table any longer with one of those 60 vpip passive calling station types on my immediate left. They just screw my game up too much. Get that sucker on your right and a couple of tight unimaginative players on your left and now you're styling.
This is bad it really isn't that hard to adjust vs. these guys just don't bluff them and vbet a lot.
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