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Tough Spot with 9's Deep in Bounty MTT Tough Spot with 9's Deep in Bounty MTT

07-01-2017 , 03:38 AM
partypoker - $5.50+$0|2000/4000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 269,725 (VPIP: 18.03, PFR: 6.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 63)
UTG: 393,926 (VPIP: 32.52, PFR: 19.01, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 123)
UTG+1: 197,237 (VPIP: 21.13, PFR: 4.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 71)
Hero (MP): 111,464
CO: 95,502 (VPIP: 26.83, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 42)
BTN: 128,450 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 48)
SB: 193,410 (VPIP: 24.19, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 63)

7 players post ante of 400, SB posts SB 2,000, BB posts BB 4,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 8,800) Hero has 9 9

UTG raises to 8,000, fold, Hero raises to 21,000, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 393,526 and is all-in, Hero ???

I was not feeling too well after I got 4-bet here as I am not doing too well against his 4-betting range. We were approaching the bubble and my bounty was decently sized, so that should open his range up a bit here. I don't think calling here is the right play but I did end up pulling the trigger in the end.

I think villains range here is 55+, KJs+, KQo, ATs+, AJo+. We are 51% equity against this range but I think it might be a bit too loose. What do you guys think?
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07-01-2017 , 07:27 PM
I don't think 3b/f is an option with this stack size - I think 3b/c is OK - flat also OK if V is not too agg post flop.

- should really have decided whether to fold or call before the 3b
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07-01-2017 , 07:35 PM
It's very easy fold now. Unless the guy is absolute maniac he's not 4 bet jamming pocket 5s here. Your ranges seem way off. I would range him at 88+ AQ off + and your not doing great against that.
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07-02-2017 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
It's very easy fold now. Unless the guy is absolute maniac he's not 4 bet jamming pocket 5s here. Your ranges seem way off. I would range him at 88+ AQ off + and your not doing great against that.
but even with this range we have 41% equity and need 39%to call
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07-02-2017 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
It's very easy fold now. Unless the guy is absolute maniac he's not 4 bet jamming pocket 5s here. Your ranges seem way off. I would range him at 88+ AQ off + and your not doing great against that.
I feel like my range was pretty wide and was a bit off. But I feel yours is a bit too tight, I had a decently sized bounties, top 10 at the time. And it should be a bit wider cause he would want to apply pressure because it was nearing the bubble stages.
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07-02-2017 , 10:38 AM
Villain flipped over 88 and I won the pot if you guys were wondering.
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07-04-2017 , 08:08 AM
gotta call after 3b like oldgoat has said you need 39% to call and against such a range you're 41%.

Although you shouldn't be 3b deep in a tourney without a solid plan on how to react if vil , calls,4b or shoves.
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07-04-2017 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev1498
But I feel yours is a bit too tight, I had a decently sized bounties, top 10 at the time. And it should be a bit wider cause he would want to apply pressure because it was nearing the bubble stages.
I'm having a hard time seeing how you can describe their 4-bet range as the top 9.95% of hands when their 3-bet range is only 2%. I think Colin_Piddle had a much more accurate description of their likely range than you're giving them credit for.

Sure, villain happened to have 88 here, but given the stats, I'm really struggling to understand what you saw in this game that would lead you to believe their 4-betting range is so wide. I will say that this is a small sample size, but it's the only sample size we have. What did you see to make you think the villain has even half of the hands you ranged them on?

Given that you're approaching the bubble and I firmly believe the villain's range is much narrower than the top 9.95% of hands, this spot isn't that great. I think this is a fold.
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07-04-2017 , 09:54 PM
In a bounty tourney the big stack is more incentivized to play looser so I don't even mind ripping the 99 for value especially if you have a more than average bounty like you mentioned and not deal with this 3bet/4bet nonsense with such a shallow stack.

Btw, I'm not a big fan of the 3bet with 99 with these stack sizes. You're giving him way too good odds with your bounty on the line vs hands that you may rather have wanted a fold with a shove (like KT/QJ/JT and even hands like Ax). You're also gonna still get called by worse if you shove.
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07-05-2017 , 05:56 AM
With this stack size, i dont like 3b calling much and i dont like 3b folding either. I like flatting or just jamming it pre
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07-05-2017 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scrwooj
In a bounty tourney the big stack is more incentivized to play looser so I don't even mind ripping the 99 for value especially if you have a more than average bounty like you mentioned and not deal with this 3bet/4bet nonsense with such a shallow stack.

Btw, I'm not a big fan of the 3bet with 99 with these stack sizes. You're giving him way too good odds with your bounty on the line vs hands that you may rather have wanted a fold with a shove (like KT/QJ/JT and even hands like Ax). You're also gonna still get called by worse if you shove.
I agree with this and with the earlier statement that with less than 30bb you really need to know how you'll play these situations before acting. You should never 3b and then get stuck and not know what to do.

Villain is laggy but what are his positional stats? You have 123 hands so there should be some info there.

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07-06-2017 , 01:54 AM
Flat the open.
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