30 players left in the tournament.We are 70bb deep,I limp 3 bet AJoff from the SB vs a good reg.He shoves for 70bb what's your calling range here?AQss + and 10s+?

I'm assuming that you are limp -3 betting to around 11 BBs and that you are ITM so ICM is a very small consideration.

When villain 4 bet-jams to a whopping 70 BBs i think you can seriously discount the chance he has a high PP. Most regs would 4bet-induce to around 22 BBs with TT+ most of the time IMO. therefore he has lots of AK, AQ and pairs under TT, as well as random stuff like AXs and random Q9s type stuff. given that sort of range I think you will find that at least AQo and 88+ will show a profit.

If you want to have a limp-3 bet range in SB at this stack depth I would make that range consist mostly of hands that you know you can call off with and hands you know you will fold to such a jam. Nothing wrong with open raising AJ instead.

Hope this helps

IMHO if you limp-3! AJo in the SB then it is very likely that BB has a better read on you than you do on him. He puts you in a Way Behind/Way Ahead situation perfectly here. A little less FPS (Fancy Play Syndrome) will help your game.

30bb is a really awkward stack depth to limp/raise with AJo. If I'm working in limps vs an opponent, it would be to mostly limp/call. I could consider limp/jam depending on frequencies and sizes and then also develop a more polar limp/raise range.

I have 70bb and he has 70bb too.

A call range is completely dependent of whether the villain has a split 4 bet range. Some players will 4 bet small/call with their premium hands and 4 bet shove with the strong and strong marginal hands, mixing in an amount of bluffs to both for balance.

Others do not split their range and either 4 bet small or 4 bet shove here with their entire range.

So while we cannot completely discount hands like AA/KK here, they can be discounted a bit due to the possibility of a split 4 bet range.

It is almost becoming standard to limp your entire range from the SB today. Against some players I do not have a raising range from the SB. I limp my entire range.

I have a limp/raise, limp/call and a limp/fold range. The limps allow to play more hands profitably from the SB in BvB situations and the limp/raise range is to protect your entire range.

He was a decent reg so I limp against good players and I raise more against tight players.

interesting thread and I do notice that more and more people are limping from the SB BvB. Having a range for all 3 (limp/raise, limp call and limp fold) is imperative especially vs better players. Vs random nits or weaker opponents I still think open raising is better.

AJ is to strong of a hand to limp BvB, i don´t care who V is, people are still overfolding, and calling with hands that we dominate.
I don´t like your limp/3bet, i will do it more polar (with like K5s or w/e), and if you decide to limp, just call to the raise and play postflop, what was your thought process (do you think he calls with worse Ax,Jx?), cus you kinda get what you asked for?

^^
.es sucks it seems

You know it does.
Not saying limp/3bet is bad or anything , but do it more polar imo, being so deep, or just opr, to strong of hand to limp (I would also call a 3bet if is the case)
What do we accomplish here, are we inducing, are we 3bet/c (pretty bad hand to do it )?




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It depends but limping AJ isnt bad.
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