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06-11-2012, 01:46 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Rosario,Argentina
Posts: 687
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Overpair facing shove overbet on paired board. $3,50 6max
PokerStars - $6.48+$0.52|15/30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
CO: 1,510.00
BTN: 1,455.00
SB: 1,745.00
BB: 1,800.00
UTG: 1,020.00
Hero (MP): 1,470.00
SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00
Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has Q  Q
fold, Hero raises to 90.00, CO calls 90.00, fold, SB calls 75.00, fold
Flop: (300.00, 3 players) 3  T  T
SB bets 1,655.00 and is all-in, Hero ??
Villain is unknown. This makes no sense at all, why would he shove here? If he has a 10, why make such a large overbet? What did he expect me to call with? KK+ probably had 3B pre. I can't think of much I'm beating, but I can't think of many hands I'm losing to either. T9+ and 33/KK+ only. He could have 44/99, JJ and many FD too.
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06-11-2012, 02:00 PM
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Di4B0l1cal d00m
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: black friday usa poker hell
Posts: 7,813
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Re: Overpair facing shove overbet on paired board. $3,50 6max
Snap expect to see a flush draw mostly, a little less Tx, a little less than that 88-44, and some 3x, take a note whatever hes got. If board was like TT8ccx it gets a little snappier cause there are more combos of 8x as well as some straight draws. I guess its ok to fold, but I always call here.
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06-11-2012, 02:41 PM
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stranger
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 13
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Re: Overpair facing shove overbet on paired board. $3,50 6max
Against two players I dont see he has Tx, he would probably c/c, c/r. I expect FD or some mid pair. With some AJ+ or TT+ he would probably raise preflop. Easy call for me.
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06-11-2012, 07:06 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 5,511
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Re: Overpair facing shove overbet on paired board. $3,50 6max
Yeah it sucks cause you will see Tx sometimes, but mostly you are good here. Try not to be results oriented in these spots! Very easy to see Tx in this spot 2-3 times and start making hero folds
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06-11-2012, 09:18 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Staking
Posts: 2,907
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Re: Overpair facing shove overbet on paired board. $3,50 6max
From my experience I would say you have got excellent equity in this spot. It's a snap call for me. A lot of villains will play their pocket pairs this way, some bluffs because it's a dry board and occasionally a ten. A ten and a full house are the least likely hands you will see here imo.
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06-19-2012, 01:53 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Rosario,Argentina
Posts: 687
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Re: Overpair facing shove overbet on paired board. $3,50 6max
PokerStars - $6.48+$0.52|15/30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
CO: 1,510.00
BTN: 1,455.00
SB: 1,745.00
BB: 1,800.00
UTG: 1,020.00
Hero (MP): 1,470.00
SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00
Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has Q  Q
fold, Hero raises to 90.00, CO calls 90.00, fold, SB calls 75.00, fold
Flop: (300.00, 3 players) 3  T  T
SB bets 1,655.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,380.00 and is all-in, fold
Turn: (3060.00, 2 players) A
River: (3060.00, 2 players) 3
SB shows A  A  (Full House, Aces full of Tens) (Pre 82%, Flop 88%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows Q  Q  (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 12%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 3,060.00
I never thought he could have aces here, he called oop even after getting 1 caller. Horrible play I think, and he got lucky I got QQ, I don't think he was so smart to realize I had an overpair and would call his huge overbet. It was a $7, not a $3,50.
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