If you want to play it optimally shove and don't even think about it, however if the money jumps are very significant for you and you feel comfortable nitting up for that, I'm sure you can fold this and not worry too much about it. not sure about m/r fold but shouldn't be a terrible option either. You'll be officially classified as a nit tho .

Haha I am a nit If I hadn't r/f twice already I would've but I think since I've done this folding would be better than r/f and shoving is probably better than both of these. Those were my thoughts at the time anyway. If I was to get the hand back now knowing what happened I'd fold though

Shove, fold if its insane soft. raise/fold is a crap play unless they are mega nit scared fish mode


Anyone have suggestions for an MTT coach? I am ready to hire a coach for the 1st time an am looking to dump some good doles into one. I am looking for a STRONG winner who is a good teacher. I don't want some random midstaker charge $75/hour or w/e

Send Buffy a PM I think he knows a few guys...

Yeah i know 3/4 guys that are pretty good coach's that I have worked with/alongside not particulary cheap but worth it imo

Hit me up on skype if you want more details

Tomo,
PM sent

TY for those that have chimed in with thoughts re: thread set up in the forum.

Siq/Ruse/jdawg/all,

I hear you about the regs thread and above suggestion, but all that thread is is a BBV thread for regs... Do we really want that? If we do, do we want to move the BBV STT thread to STTF also? Seems redundant.

This is also complicated by the fact that none of the forums that have a regs thread seem to have a **** thread. So all we'd be doing is slicing everything up a bunch more.

Maybe it makes sense to move the BBV thread to STTF and create an LC thread? I would consider making the **** thread a regs thread and making it 'anything goes' kind of thing but think that a lot of ppl that post in there regularly would not be too fond of the idea.

Regs thread/LC thread/BBV thread/**** thread....seems like a lot no?

I do want this movement (and forum happenings in general) to be a 'governing by consensus' kind of thing. That said, obviously there is already some dissent amongst regular posters in here and a decision will have to be made somehow sometime soon.

I think the perception that STTF is heavily modded is way overblown nowadays. It was definitely true under citanul's reign and when I first started modding in like 2008 but in general think most of the mods in here are either not present at all or of relatively low activity as it relates to modding the forum and comparing it to many other sub forums.

Buffy,

You just jelly son.

It's in another forum

Check out LLSNL It lives, it lives thread, that's what this thread should be aimed after. It's a very, very nice thread. A lot of regulars post hands in there to each other to hear thoughts, if it requires much analysis they make a thread. A majority of the time it's just a social thread amongst each other. I really do not understand why we can not do the same.

The social aspect of LLSNL is covered by our subforum's monthly **** thread. Do we need another low content thread for sttf regs so that they may also post low quality hands? Not sure about that.

villain is reg and 5 tabling hu at $30-$60

Right. The above is referring to the possibility of moving that thread to this forum as per previous comments. Apologies if I didn't properly clarify that.

Tim - Don't get why you're turning it into a bluff. Value bluff? Villains donk range probably doesn't have that many Kings, probably weighted towards Tx and draws like 89, JQ. We have the best hand here a lot...

^ the hands you beat like TX will fold anyways, by shoving river you can also fold KX hands that beat you. The question i ask myself then is how often do I value own myself vs 2pair hands and sets that are not folding to my river shove. Based on his river sizing and that he didn't 3bet pre makes me think that his range doesn't often have AX/KX 2pair hands, He also always 3b TT/KK/AA pre as well as 77 sometimes.

65/35 payout super turbo 20/40 blind level
utg folds (215)
Sb shoves (1135)
hero (450)

Sb is a solid player and we know he is shoving super wide, pry 100%. i know i can go plug this into an icm program for an answer, and i did, but i want thoughts on our calling range if we think Sb is shoving 100%

It should be what Icm spits out..

You can factor in meta (ie calling wider than optimal, hoping villain will notice and tighten his range in these spots long term).

Villain is new to me, although I haven't met him i'll assume he's on the looser side having this stack size early

$15 18player SNG

Seems like nizzles on turn, the fact he can't have AK/AT stuff often makes it even stronger, no? I see players calldown with Ax instead of making this raise

Do you check flop instead?
I usually check flop but was droning on too many tables --__-

Check flop 100% vs a rando here as there is no need to be balanced and so it doesn't lead to this spot where rando's make weird plays.

Turn is blah. After your flop check he could think you're weak/his Ax is the nuts. I would expect a lead with most good hands though, ch/r is a weird line. Pretty sure any play on the turn is pretty close between fold/call/ship. Might take a peak at any AF stat before making a decision of the 3...

i don't even think flop is a real question. check is clearly the best option by a mile.
turn sucks but with what you have to go off of i'd prob just muck turn.
if only you hadn't bet flop


anyone using PT4 for sngs? HM1 still sounds like it's the best option (and usually works fine) but with how awful they are with support / fixing problems I think needing an alternative isn't far away from now. I really don't want to give my money to the HEM people because they are awful and HM2 has been a disaster both times I tried the trial (even recently).
from what i've read PT4 seems just as bad i just did a trial and importing one day worth of hands took nearly 10 mins (compared to <1min on HM1).
Really wish a new developer would come out with a new software and charge monthly/annually. I assume HM/PT are awful because they've probably made most of the money they will ever make already and have no real strong incentive to please customers who have already paid

Been on HM1 forever. Tried HM2 for like a day laughed and went back to HM1. Was on PT before but that was a really old version. I think HM1 is fine as far as I'm concerned...

word, im still on HM1. i dunno, one thing i thought about recently was notecaddy and NC edge, is that a valuable tool? thats only available on HM2 correct? hm2 has stats vs hero to, i think that could be a nice feature

all of that would be nice if HM2 was any kind of stable for me / a lot of people who try it.

HM 1 here as well. Playing MTTs atm and it doesn't import results correctly which sucks but for sngs I liked it better then HM2

Hi Guys,

After reading your responses and thinking it over, have decided on the following set up for threads going forward:

- STTF Regs thread will stay. Can be an anything goes for regs thread as far as I'm concerned. This should hopefully also alleviate some people's concerns regarding lack of high stakes thread as well. If we keep the thread clean of n00bs trying to evade the rest of the forum and the like then it should work. Please use the 'report post' button and it'll make my life easier.

- STTF --> Cash thread stays as is on the whole. I am happy to relax restrictions for content in that thread such that regs can post the occasional non-SNG hand (IE can be cash, MTTs, HU, other). Entim if you *really* don't want to post in the MTT forums and have a hand you'd really like to post that's not bbv you're welcome to post it in that thread.

- STT BBV thread will be moved into STTF. Rules regarding BBV in the rest of the forum will be treated the same as they are now (IE not allowed).

If there's anything else missing or other matters that need attention let us know.

Will there be donuts?