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02-26-2013 , 11:12 PM
Welcome to the thread for STTF regs. Enjoy.

- Don't out SNs
- Don't talk about how to exploit a specific player.
- Please try to minimize lame BBV and keep that in the STT BBV thread.

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Originally Posted by AMT
Hi Guys,

After reading your responses and thinking it over, have decided on the following set up for threads going forward:

- STTF Regs thread will stay. Can be an anything goes for regs thread as far as I'm concerned. This should hopefully also alleviate some people's concerns regarding lack of high stakes thread as well. If we keep the thread clean of n00bs trying to evade the rest of the forum and the like then it should work. Please use the 'report post' button and it'll make my life easier.

- STTF --> Cash thread stays as is on the whole. I am happy to relax restrictions for content in that thread such that regs can post the occasional non-SNG hand (IE can be cash, MTTs, HU, other). Entim if you *really* don't want to post in the MTT forums and have a hand you'd really like to post that's not bbv you're welcome to post it in that thread.

- STT BBV thread will be moved into STTF. Rules regarding BBV in the rest of the forum will be treated the same as they are now (IE not allowed).

If there's anything else missing or other matters that need attention let us know.

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02-26-2013 , 11:22 PM
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02-26-2013 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SiQ
Welcome to the thread for STTF regs. Enjoy.

- Don't out SNs

- Don't talk about how to exploit a specific player.
- No BBV.
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
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02-27-2013 , 12:10 AM
Great idea, ive been wanting a LC strat thread for a while.

Anyone have good ideas for in session notetaking. For someone that uses a controller like me, its kinda a hassle to highlight the player, turn off hotkeys, type note, and then switch back. Anyone know if you can make notes out of the client and then later attach them them to players int the client, without choosing player and pasting obv.

Lets try and keep this open guys so no talking about how bad youre running or posting bbv hands or any of that crap. Hope for some interesting discussion.
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02-27-2013 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
Great idea, ive been wanting a LC strat thread for a while.

Anyone have good ideas for in session notetaking. For someone that uses a controller like me, its kinda a hassle to highlight the player, turn off hotkeys, type note, and then switch back. Anyone know if you can make notes out of the client and then later attach them them to players int the client, without choosing player and pasting obv.

Lets try and keep this open guys so no talking about how bad youre running or posting bbv hands or any of that crap. Hope for some interesting discussion.
I use a recorder I bought cheap on amazon. I record notes like a doctor giving dictation. At the end of the session I play them back and use HEM to make sure I have the SN correct and add the note to my notes file in Stars.
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02-27-2013 , 12:33 AM
While on that topic. I exclusively use the poker site for note taking, anyone use HEM for player notes? Any advantages by doing so?
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02-27-2013 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
I use a recorder I bought cheap on amazon. I record notes like a doctor giving dictation. At the end of the session I play them back and use HEM to make sure I have the SN correct and add the note to my notes file in Stars.
Don't know why i opend this thread lol stts.

But this is ****ing genuis.
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02-27-2013 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
I use a recorder I bought cheap on amazon. I record notes like a doctor giving dictation. At the end of the session I play them back and use HEM to make sure I have the SN correct and add the note to my notes file in Stars.
This is also a great idea for live play
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02-27-2013 , 12:47 AM
I hear your mom likes stts.

Last edited by Rusemandingo; 02-27-2013 at 12:48 AM. Reason: not you CQ
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02-27-2013 , 02:50 AM
What I do for note taking is actually mark the notable hands/spots for review. Right after the session I have all the info to write detailed notes and it also serves the purpose of studying sticky/questionable spots.
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02-27-2013 , 03:43 AM
Ill usually mark hands i want to run through an ICM calc but if i could jot down that player x minraised AA with 7bb in a couple seconds thatd prob be easier. For me i think having hands marked is most worthwhile so you have the hh to input.

Does anyone have a good mark current or last hand script. Theres supposedly one in the TN client but i can never get it to work. Right now i just manually click the hand from the pot size hud list and then mark the box.
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02-27-2013 , 03:48 AM
Ruse, ditch the gamepad for something like this

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02-27-2013 , 07:16 AM
I just wanted to ask Ruse, SiQ or any other really good pro STT player who have already posted or will post itt. For years now I have been stuck in this "mediocre reg" category. I am just wondering did you ever been there and if you was, what kind of steps did you took to overcome it and elevate yourself to the next level? Is it a very strict work ethic or mental training or just something else you do to keep yourself going. My main problem is that I can play really well and crush all my volume goals if I am winning and if not I just start doubting every decision very soon and eventually stop playing at all. I know you dont have to share this, but I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
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02-27-2013 , 10:13 AM
Live turbo MTT
Blinds 400/800/50ante
about 20 people left, 10 pay (50euro buyin, 1.7keuro ftw)
I have a tight image, everyone will be calling off pretty tight but there are lots of spots where I should lower variance

folds to me in Hijack position with 33 with 12.5k. I haven't raised or jammed this stack size yet. Players behind have me covered with 2 sitting on 20k~ and 2 sitting on 40k+~ (20k,40k,20k,40k) I feel it's super close. Thoughts?
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02-27-2013 , 11:03 AM
I think r/f or jam are pretty close leaning toward jam given ur reads

Plus its lol live u may even get flatted

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02-27-2013 , 11:24 AM
raise/fold seems infinitely better than shove with a tight image with this stack size in a live tourney. It's probably close between raise/fold, fold, and limp.(note: I don't limp very often but weaker the field the more likely I'm to add it as an option)

You mentioned that you had not been raising or shoving this stack size yet,....Why was this the case?

33 is obviously not the optimal hand to take post flop but I'd feel sort of silly shoving it for over 15BB's deep in what is most likely a weaker than average tourney.

You didn't give enough post flop or preflop reads to really understand the situation fully but based on hearsay and minimal experience playing live shoving seems like your worst option. Granted I'm also taking into account your noted tight image.
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02-27-2013 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mavs
I just wanted to ask Ruse, SiQ or any other really good pro STT player who have already posted or will post itt. For years now I have been stuck in this "mediocre reg" category. I am just wondering did you ever been there and if you was, what kind of steps did you took to overcome it and elevate yourself to the next level? Is it a very strict work ethic or mental training or just something else you do to keep yourself going. My main problem is that I can play really well and crush all my volume goals if I am winning and if not I just start doubting every decision very soon and eventually stop playing at all. I know you dont have to share this, but I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
Start thinking for yourself. Although training sites, other tools, and ICM calculators, etc are great for initial learning you will most likely have to teach yourself how to think outside of the box to become one of the better or elite REGs. Look at spots where some of the better or more winning REGS have put you into difficult spots where you are unsure of your decisions and think, "How can I incorporate that into my game?"

Look over the trends amongst your common REGs in the current poker climate and try to think of ways to exploit them. I'm not going to give more info than that but that should put you on your way.
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02-27-2013 , 11:37 AM
Tim - depends on how people were playing. Given it was live and sometimes every hand can have 3+ to a flop I'd be more inclined to jam. But if we can expect 1 caller most times then I'd raise. I'd be looking for a reason not to just raise since we can comfortably r/f this hand vs these villains with our image. And if we can get it HU take down the pot with a cbet most times.

For notes I just take them in game and use a hot-key to mark hands for review.

I'm interested in what people use to colour code? I was thinking of a system where villains are colour coded based on an exploitable action that they take (eg. yellow = a min raise with <10BB is always a top 5% hand etc)...
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02-27-2013 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by michty6
Tim - depends on how people were playing. Given it was live and sometimes every hand can have 3+ to a flop I'd be more inclined to jam.
If this is/was the case I'd imagine he can still find a much better spot. This would mean the table is loaded with fish. 33 may look pretty because it's a pair but I'd still much rather own them in other spots, shoving over weak limps, etc.
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02-27-2013 , 12:57 PM
<3
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02-27-2013 , 01:34 PM
Tim I like shove given our hand and BBs stack, however if they are really pretty tight and we could r/f. I think 1st time people see you shove what they would call ~15bb (referring to non regs) you get MUCHO respect if you have an at all tight/sane image.

Ruse there is an AHK script in the software forum, pretty sure title is "mark current hand script" Think it was posted by that Max1mus fellow

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Originally Posted by mavs
My main problem is that I can play really well and crush all my volume goals if I am winning and if not I just start doubting every decision very soon and eventually stop playing at all.
+10000 to cneuys advice especially the start thinking for yourself part!

Stop focusing on worthless things. The ONLY thing that matters is if you fired up your games and tried/played your best. Doesn't matter if you fail 15 bluffs in a row, get your AA/KK cracked 10x, if your roi on the day was -30%. Focus yourself and put your energy towards always improving and always playing your best results will come. Don't waste your time on any form of negativity. In man langauge: Don't be a ****in sissy! One of the biggest leaks for grinders in general (esp avg low-mid stakes guys) is a weak mental game. Getting super angry, tilting, losing faith/confidence in their game, giving up, etc all this type of behavior occurs entirely too often. Have some faith in yourself ffs and stay positive!

Start really studying. Most people's study involves quickly going through a sng (or few) and pretty much checking to make sure they didn't do anything ******ed. Or they pop in a few shove spots in a minute flat and go ok this was bad, this one was good, I'm done now. Starting asking as many questions as you can!

Postflop hand: How does my preflop sizing affect his flatting / 3bet ranges? If I make my raise X vs Y preflop does this change his perception of my cbet? How does his range (or something like bluff frequency) change if I bet small, medium, big shove? What about 3 small barrels? 3 huge ones?

Shove/reshove hands:
Is this a spot where small change in his frequencies could really swing things hugely another way? What is my table like, can I pass on X spot because in the future I will have many good opportunities? What if I give player A 1000 more chips, and take away 750 from the BB? Can I make him fold more my raising 1/3rd or half my stack? How does my range change with 2 stations behind? 2 nits?

Am I stealing enough? Is anyone picking on my blinds cause I'm too tight? Am I getting exploited in any specific set of spots a lot?

You could take the most simple/stupid hand ever and break down the tiny little things for ages. Start really breaking down poker hands instead of just casually looking them over. Even in 2012 you could train a monkey to beat $10-15 SnGs. It's easy to play tight early and then shove wide and not call super wide on the bubble. Anyone who's not an idiot can do this. If you wanna be a strong winner or play high stakes you can't just sit there dwelling in your mediocrity playing a SnG the same way you've probably been playing for years

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02-27-2013 , 02:32 PM
I like where this thread is going.
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02-27-2013 , 02:58 PM
going to post some minor hands later
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02-27-2013 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
I hear your mom likes stts.
actually loled wp sir
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02-27-2013 , 03:05 PM
At what tables are we raising this pre, what tables are we limping this, what tabes/if any tables are we open-folding this?

Poker Stars $3.11+$0.39 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2121352
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG+2: t1500 75 BBs
MP1: t1450 72.50 BBs
Hero (MP2): t1470 73.50 BBs
CO: t1290 64.50 BBs
BTN: t1860 93 BBs
SB: t1440 72 BBs
BB: t1530 76.50 BBs
UTG: t1460 73 BBs
UTG+1: t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP2 with 8 8
4 folds, Hero calls t20, CO raises to t60, BTN calls t60, 1 fold, BB calls t40, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t250) J 3 2 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets t60, BTN calls t60, BB folds, Hero folds

Turn: (t370) T (2 players)
CO bets t120, BTN calls t120

River: (t610) J (2 players)
CO checks, BTN checks
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