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05-07-2009, 06:19 AM
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#106
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
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Originally Posted by pontylad
so this has become a thread for posting standard hands?
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No, its became a thread to keep from standard bbv being posted in sttf.
It also turned into a thread where ofihstix says hi to me.
To keep in the spirit of the thread, I wrote a rap song based on my month so far. Two of my close friends are travelling so I've been grinding like I used to as a youngster. Here is the first verse
May is gay!
Why did I play?
Grind today?
Lol, no way!
We should turn it into a speculation thread where we talk about the tourney graph thing in HEM, and how its made to keep fish thinking they are winners, so they keep paying rake. Obviously Roy in cahoots with the poker sites
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05-07-2009, 03:22 PM
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#107
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
HEM luck graphs tilt the **** out of me.
I really don't think they are anywhere near anything that resembles accurate for telling you how much you should have won.
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05-07-2009, 08:10 PM
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#108
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
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Originally Posted by SiQ
HEM luck graphs tilt the **** out of me.
I really don't think they are anywhere near anything that resembles accurate for telling you how much you should have won.
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Well, it is as limited as ICM itself.
I'm constantly running into big hands atm, so my redline is hovering around 0, eventhough my pushes are good (i'd say...). If the redline would show what i SHOULD have won it would need to know the ranges and what the expectation of my push was regardless of the outcome.
Thats impossible obv.
Imo, the redline is completely useless and doesn't represent what we think it represents. It measures something that is too disconnected from the expected results and actual game itself.
What i'd like to have is a redline that measures nothing and just says "you run bad" all the time regardless of the actual luck. Thats all i wanted the red line to do anyways. I don't wanna know that i run good, cause that means i'm worse at SNGs than i think - and who wants to know that?
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05-08-2009, 09:58 AM
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#109
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
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Originally Posted by jurrasstoil
Well, it is as limited as ICM itself.
I'm constantly running into big hands atm, so my redline is hovering around 0, eventhough my pushes are good (i'd say...). If the redline would show what i SHOULD have won it would need to know the ranges and what the expectation of my push was regardless of the outcome.
Thats impossible obv.
Imo, the redline is completely useless and doesn't represent what we think it represents. It measures something that is too disconnected from the expected results and actual game itself.
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I agree with most of this, besides if your not getting it in bad often in sngs , your doing wrong. The red def shoves you something but shouldn't be over valued imo
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05-08-2009, 08:50 PM
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#110
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veteran
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
Brag: Bankroll above $130 now starting with $20 after only playing ~ 25 $3.40 SNGs. Seriously sick.
Beat1: Low limit.
Beat2: Didn't invest in pokertracker or SNGwiz when I had the monies.
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05-11-2009, 12:58 PM
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#111
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
mj - there are two g's in "blogged", ldo.
78% over my last 50 games. Sustainable?
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05-11-2009, 01:08 PM
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#112
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
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Originally Posted by Doublez-Down
mj - there are two g's in "blogged", ldo.
78% over my last 50 games. Sustainable?
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I don't know what you are talking about
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05-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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#113
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
ITM in 200r, for a top 5 stack with what would have been a nice separation from the 10-20 bb stacks.
Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+1: t48449 M = 13.46
Hero (MP1): t84373 M = 23.44
MP2: t57475 M = 15.97
CO: t140800 M = 39.11
BTN: t39222 M = 10.89
SB: t142969 M = 39.71
BB: t51340 M = 14.26
UTG: t42112 M = 11.70
Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is MP1 with K  K
UTG raises to t4100, 1 fold, Hero calls t4100, MP2 raises to t57325 all in, 5 folds, Hero calls t53225
Flop: (t122350) T  7  Q (2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: (t122350) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t122350) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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05-11-2009, 08:14 PM
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#114
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
'bout as fun as getting punched in the balls Scotty.
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05-12-2009, 05:40 AM
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#115
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veteran
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
In nearly 6000 $52s played, this was by far the worst beat.
Poker Stars $50+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t20 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
MP: t1590 M = 3.61
Hero (CO): t2830 M = 6.43
BTN: t4130 M = 9.39
SB: t1520 M = 3.45
BB: t1155 M = 2.62
UTG: t1810 M = 4.11
UTG+1: t1965 M = 4.47
Pre Flop: (t440) Hero is CO with A  A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1945 all in, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2810 all in, BTN calls t2810, 2 folds
Flop: (t8005) 2  Q  3 (3 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: (t8005) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t8005) 6 (3 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: t8005
Hero shows A  A  (a pair of Aces)
BTN shows 5  Q  (a straight, Deuce to Six)
UTG+1 shows 8  8  (a flush, Queen high)
BTN wins t1730
UTG+1 wins t6275
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05-12-2009, 07:43 AM
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#116
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
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Originally Posted by AnfieldRoad
In nearly 6000 $52s played, this was by far the worst beat.
Poker Stars $50+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t20 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
MP: t1590 M = 3.61
Hero (CO): t2830 M = 6.43
BTN: t4130 M = 9.39
SB: t1520 M = 3.45
BB: t1155 M = 2.62
UTG: t1810 M = 4.11
UTG+1: t1965 M = 4.47
Pre Flop: (t440) Hero is CO with A  A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1945 all in, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2810 all in, BTN calls t2810, 2 folds
Flop: (t8005) 2  Q  3 (3 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: (t8005) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t8005) 6 (3 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: t8005
Hero shows A  A  (a pair of Aces)
BTN shows 5  Q  (a straight, Deuce to Six)
UTG+1 shows 8  8  (a flush, Queen high)
BTN wins t1730
UTG+1 wins t6275
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If this is your worst beat that horse shoe up ur a$$ must be making hell of a job.
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05-12-2009, 07:45 AM
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#117
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banned
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
^ Thats not even a proper beat imo I agree. Ive seen much worse.
Finally got up some. Last 950 games Im up bout 400$ + bonuses/rb.
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05-12-2009, 07:46 AM
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#118
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty_12
ITM in 200r, for a top 5 stack with what would have been a nice separation from the 10-20 bb stacks.
Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+1: t48449 M = 13.46
Hero (MP1): t84373 M = 23.44
MP2: t57475 M = 15.97
CO: t140800 M = 39.11
BTN: t39222 M = 10.89
SB: t142969 M = 39.71
BB: t51340 M = 14.26
UTG: t42112 M = 11.70
Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is MP1 with K  K
UTG raises to t4100, 1 fold, Hero calls t4100, MP2 raises to t57325 all in, 5 folds, Hero calls t53225
Flop: (t122350) T  7  Q (2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: (t122350) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t122350) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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I realy wanna go ahead and say " U got what u deserved for flating KK "
Nice tarp.
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05-12-2009, 07:47 AM
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#119
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veteran
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
Obviously not percentage wise or whatever. It's just the combination of sheer idiocy (nobody spite calls for 70% of their stack in this spot) in the call, and the result. I mean...I can't remember ever seeing a call that bad to begin with. Probably doesn't even happen to me monthly.
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05-13-2009, 02:14 AM
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#120
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Official STT BBV Thread imo (beat: sngs)
nice use of the spoiler feature!
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