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04-17-2010, 11:33 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
In anticipation of the plethora of steps questions we get each year around this time, we're putting together an official thread for use.
Feel free to post hands here or outside the thread.
As usual no BBV. All forum rules apply.
The link is in the STTF Tools thread if you need to find this thread
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04-20-2010, 02:03 PM
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grinder
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
anyone know of training sites with steps videos? i know jackal has some videos up on cardrunners but other than that i havent been able to find any.
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04-20-2010, 09:55 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Bubble of a Step 1. How bad is BB's call here?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB (t2255)
UTG (t2740)
MP (t2165)
CO (t2880)
Hero (Button) (t1100)
SB (t2360)
Hero's M: 2.44
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7  , 6
3 folds, Hero bets t1100 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t800
Flop: (t2350) 8  , 2  , 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t2350) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t2350) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t2350
Results:
Hero had 7  , 6  (one pair, twos).
BB had Q  , J  (two pair, Queens and twos).
Outcome: BB won t2350
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04-20-2010, 10:17 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by theend4079
anyone know of training sites with steps videos? i know jackal has some videos up on cardrunners but other than that i havent been able to find any.
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Most sites have some vids about steps, but none are particularly great imo. DC started one with bones, SNGGrinders has some higher step 4-6 vids iirc, stox had one about a step 6 win and floattheturn (sngicons) had some as well.
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04-21-2010, 03:39 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
Bubble of a Step 1. How bad is BB's call here?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB (t2255)
UTG (t2740)
MP (t2165)
CO (t2880)
Hero (Button) (t1100)
SB (t2360)
Hero's M: 2.44
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7  , 6
3 folds, Hero bets t1100 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t800
Flop: (t2350) 8  , 2  , 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t2350) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t2350) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t2350
Results:
Hero had 7  , 6  (one pair, twos).
BB had Q  , J  (two pair, Queens and twos).
Outcome: BB won t2350
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Very easy call. You're shoving wide he has you covered enough and is getting 2:1.
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04-21-2010, 06:25 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
Bubble of a Step 1. How bad is BB's call here?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB (t2255)
UTG (t2740)
MP (t2165)
CO (t2880)
Hero (Button) (t1100)
SB (t2360)
Hero's M: 2.44
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7  , 6
3 folds, Hero bets t1100 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t800
Flop: (t2350) 8  , 2  , 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t2350) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t2350) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t2350
Results:
Hero had 7  , 6  (one pair, twos).
BB had Q  , J  (two pair, Queens and twos).
Outcome: BB won t2350
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its a step 1 dont try to get into your opponents heads here. its not like your shoving with the most fold equity in the world either. in the future dont count on your opponents folding much of anything to you here
Quote:
Originally Posted by jurrasstoil
Most sites have some vids about steps, but none are particularly great imo. DC started one with bones, SNGGrinders has some higher step 4-6 vids iirc, stox had one about a step 6 win and floattheturn (sngicons) had some as well.
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thanks will check those sites out
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04-21-2010, 01:50 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
FTP Step 2 Superturbo (from memory)(top 2 tickets, 3rd back to step 2)
50/100 blinds
BTN: 280
Hero (sb): 240
BB: 2180
BTN pushes, Hero has A8o.
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04-21-2010, 01:51 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deurdy
Very easy call. You're shoving wide he has you covered enough and is getting 2:1.
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He has me covered but the difference in stack sizes around the table is minimal. If he loses this pot, we switch places and he becomes the shortie. That's a big risk in a satty structure like this, where top 5 get to play another day and the rest get squat.
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04-22-2010, 04:39 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
He has me covered but the difference in stack sizes around the table is minimal. If he loses this pot, we switch places and he becomes the shortie. That's a big risk in a satty structure like this, where top 5 get to play another day and the rest get squat.
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It's a step 1, not a step 6. Is $7.50 really a big risk?
Either way as said, you're obviously pushing wide and he is getting 2:1 and even if he loses he has 3BBs left. Folding would simply be a mistake on his behalf.
As an additional piece of advice, you may want to be more concerned about posting spots where you are unsure of whether your own plays are correct, cause those are the things that will actually make you improve. Trying to get people to agree with you on whether villain made a bad call is not going to help you at all.
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04-22-2010, 05:45 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
He has me covered but the difference in stack sizes around the table is minimal. If he loses this pot, we switch places and he becomes the shortie. That's a big risk in a satty structure like this, where top 5 get to play another day and the rest get squat.
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Your logic is totally wrong, this actually makes it more of a call.
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04-22-2010, 08:12 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
been on the ftp superturbo step grind. i want to have a comfortable amount of tickets for each step before i move up to the next level so i can eventually buy into most of all the mtts i play on FTP using tickets/try to bang off a few main seats. for those of you who grind these, what would be a reasonable amount of tickets to try to get at each level before moving up?
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04-22-2010, 09:16 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: new york
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
so i just reached step 6, what is the last step structure? with one package pay out?
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04-22-2010, 10:22 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Friendly reminder, hand posting rules still apply. DO NOT post results. No BBV!
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04-24-2010, 06:19 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
Are these steps decently profitable/worth my time?
I fig I would use my fpps to buy step 1 tickets and try to freeroll them... Is this worth it and what exactly is the step 7 prize?
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04-24-2010, 07:11 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ****Official Steps Strategy Thread****
on FTP?
Step 7 has a WSOP Package for first place (net worth is $12k iirc), not sure how the remaining 6k are distributed tho. First itm spot is the dollar value of a Step 7 ticket i think.
If you are playing microstakes they are probably not worth your time. Once you reach step 4+ you'll feel the pressure of the buyin you are playing and thats not good.
If you get rakeback and want to use your FPP roll to buy tickets, they are not worth the RB hit either imo.
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