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Old 02-22-2012, 05:23 AM   #106
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

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When I go to Supercuts, they give me a card that gets stamped every haircut I get, and the 10th haircut is free!

Maybe a player-retention promotion at the micro/lower stakes where every "x" number of games you play at a certain buyin/rake, you get a free SNG ticket...

...but, you don't get to use them til the start of the next cycle/month. So someone plays a few hundred SNGs, loses the $100 they deposited, and decides "screw it, I'm tired of poker for a while."

At the start of the next month, they have 4-5 free SNG tickets sitting in their account, and may decide poker is good entertainment after all, and put in a number of hours and possibly $$ they otherwise would have spent doing something else.

Heck, you could even slightly increase the rake in applicable SNGs to pay for it (matching the $EV players are expected to get back).
this is a good idea... the put it in the account next cycle (month?/week? stars probably knows the interval most recs are willing to redeposig) thing, not so much the increase rake thing

reduce BoP if you need to pay for it...


Thought a bit about it: the "play 10 get one free" is unsustainable, as it would be in excess of 100% RB, play 100 get one free is not very appealing, maybe "play x and qualify for bonus y [which needs to be cleared before being released]" the bonus itself might be SNG tickets... you would get the bonus rather easily and the clearing requirement would be again a bit more volume than what you put in to get it etc...
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:42 AM   #107
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

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give us 15$ 27man turbo trial run too, 15$ 18man runs lotssssss anway!!!
Totally alter the buy-in imo. Make it a $20-$25 27 man.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:50 AM   #108
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Fix the rake increase you did back in May on the $16s (now $15s). I'm surprised there wasn't a boycott with so many 2p2'ers playing this level. You decreased the buy-in from 15 to 13.89 (lowering the game's profitability) as well as increased not only the rake%, but the total rake figure from 1 to 1.11 (again further lowering the game's profitability).

A 10% base ROI player went from earning 50c/game ((15*0.1)-1) to earning 27.9c/game ((13.89*0.1)-1.11), while PokerStars experiences a 11% increase (from $9 to $9.99 per game) in rake at a now lower buy-in.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:09 AM   #109
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Totally alter the buy-in imo. Make it a $20-$25 27 man.




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Old 02-22-2012, 08:39 AM   #110
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

bring the 45's 180's leaderboard!!!
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #111
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

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Old 02-22-2012, 01:15 PM   #112
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:50 PM   #113
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

So day 2 of $30 9 man hypers, traffic still sucks.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:05 PM   #114
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Itll prob take a week or two to pick up. Its not like all the rec players have been watching this thread and know theyre here. Theyll stumble onto them one day, get hooked and then look for them in the future. But i wouldnt huge traffic ever. I think 9man turbos 30+ have been slow to load for a while now too.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:10 PM   #115
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

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In response to player demand, we are introducing six new hyper speed Sit & Gos.

6-Max $3.32 + $0.18
6-Max $14.41 + $0.59
6-Max $96.49 + $3.51

9-Max $1.39 + $0.11
9-Max $28.77 + $1.23
9-Max $96.32 + 3.68

We will monitor the impact of these new Hypers on our Turbo liquidity over the coming weeks. A decision will be made by mid-March as to whether or not to make any additional changes to the Hyper offering.
Well done Stars! Thanks.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:43 PM   #116
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

where is 3.5$ 9max ?
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:58 PM   #117
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

FWIW, the $30 6-max hypers got quite a bit more traffic as time went on (though that might have been due just to more grinders). Be interesting to see if traffic picks up at all after several weekends+
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #118
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Jackpot SNGs, displayed in the lobby in green. I.e. $6.52 + $.48 + $1 with the $1 distributed back entirely to the players.

The $1 goes to instant win prizes you can get when you win the SNG, hit quads or a straight flush, lose a bad beat, etc.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:12 PM   #119
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Re: *** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***

they should put mark "new" when they open new tipe of sng's like it was few years ago
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Volume is rewarded via the VIP system... Maybe you can increase fish their volume by offering them double rewards, but I'm not too sure. I do like the idea of some sort of Iron Man ish thing though, where you are rewarded for steady volume rather than total volume.

I feel like the problem with the Battle of Planets is as follows:
-Fish can rarely get high up the leaderboard, it is demotivating for them to see how many players are "better than them" and the chance of them winning a high spot is near zero.
-Regs still need to run stupid hot to get a shot at any significant money, which increases the variance of these games. I figure most regs would prefer less rake or something more volume based

What is good about it:
-It increases competition and incentive to play!

So what I would suggest is that you try and create the best of both worlds.

-Keep the leaderboards, but reduce the prizes to the Battle of Planets monthly freeroll tickets for the top 20 on each leaderboard.
-Use some of the money to create monthly volume based SNG prizes incentive like Iron man, some stupid example:
200 VPPs 15 days a month: 20 dollars bonus for the next month
500 VPPs 15 days a month: 50 dollars " "
1000 VPPs 15 days a month: 100 dollars " "
200 VPPs 25 days a month: 45 dollars " "
500 VPPs 25 days a month: 125 dollars " "
1000 VPPs 25 days a month: 275 dollars " "

This would not necessarily attract new players, but would create an uptick in volume over all types of players.

Then use the rest of the money to create a SNG lottery tickets to complete the fun, where you get a lottery ticket for every 20 raked SNGs you play until a certain point where you would then get once every 100. At the end of the month there is a big draw where you can find out wether your tickets won anything. This would deff attract new players imo.

This is so awesome, pstars should just hire bbfg kids a genius
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