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03-02-2012 , 12:54 PM
Can you have them update the VIP calculator with new additions to the HYPERS?

(Too lazy to do the maths)

http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/calculator/
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03-02-2012 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
With regard to the possibility of Omaha Hi-Lo hypers. Even if we deployed them, we couldn't deploy both PLO8 and NLO8 due to liquidity concerns. I would be interested to see if a consensus could be reached in the thread about which format is more likely to be successful.

Note this isn't about which format you personally prefer or which you believe requires more skill. Just which would prove more popular.
NLO8 will definitely be the more popular game, as it will appeal to a bigger player pool. Nlholdem players are more likely to play another no limit game as opposed to pot limit, a format that is foreign to players who have not played PLO (pot limit Holdem is just not a popular game).

I don't know if you have access to these figures, but the NLO8 hyper satellites proved to be quite popular. I believe the buyins that ran were $4, $7, $18 and $38. I never played any PLO8 hypers, but had them in my filter and didn't see many run.
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03-02-2012 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
NLO8 will definitely be the more popular game, as it will appeal to a bigger player pool. Nlholdem players are more likely to play another no limit game as opposed to pot limit, a format that is foreign to players who have not played PLO (pot limit Holdem is just not a popular game).

I don't know if you have access to these figures, but the NLO8 hyper satellites proved to be quite popular. I believe the buyins that ran were $4, $7, $18 and $38. I never played any PLO8 hypers, but had them in my filter and didn't see many run.
Thanks explaining it alot better that i did.
what you said is 100% true nlholdem players will be more likely to play another nl game.
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03-02-2012 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
Within the next few hours, we will be deploying the following Pot-limit Omaha 6-max Hyper Sit & Gos.

$1.40 + $0.10
$3.32 + $0.18
$14.41 + $0.59
$28.83 + $1.17
$96.49 + $3.51
loved
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03-02-2012 , 02:49 PM
**** YEAH my dear walmsley highfive

hilo would be the moar popular one imo, but as i mentioned i think that turbo section isnt as dead as plo, so also from your point of view it does make sense to revitalize plo first.

just a thought honey, i dont see hilo interfering with plo too much.the regs r different for a reason.and while im doing tons of crazy **** as for mixing games, it would be unpossible to grind hilo+hi at the same time, simply head asplodes when youre at 10 tables for sure.
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03-03-2012 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
With regard to the possibility of Omaha Hi-Lo hypers. Even if we deployed them, we couldn't deploy both PLO8 and NLO8 due to liquidity concerns. I would be interested to see if a consensus could be reached in the thread about which format is more likely to be successful.

Note this isn't about which format you personally prefer or which you believe requires more skill. Just which would prove more popular.
Any news on this?...
The majority of omaha8 players will be happy for hyper turbo's wether its NLO8 or PLO8.
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03-03-2012 , 01:12 PM
i think the average player enjoys NLO8 more
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03-03-2012 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rugmuncher
i think the average player enjoys NLO8 more
hopefully there will be NLO8 very soon
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03-03-2012 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
NLO8 will definitely be the more popular game, as it will appeal to a bigger player pool. Nlholdem players are more likely to play another no limit game as opposed to pot limit, a format that is foreign to players who have not played PLO (pot limit Holdem is just not a popular game).

I don't know if you have access to these figures, but the NLO8 hyper satellites proved to be quite popular. I believe the buyins that ran were $4, $7, $18 and $38. I never played any PLO8 hypers, but had them in my filter and didn't see many run.
this 100% AINEC. Why would u need PL in a hyper format anyway. It's about having a small edge in AIPF situations. Don't see why this would need to be PL.
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03-03-2012 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by zuri1886
this 100% AINEC. Why would u need PL in a hyper format anyway. It's about having a small edge in AIPF situations. Don't see why this would need to be PL.
I agree the concept PLO hypers is a bit unnecessary. I'm in no ways an Omaha expert, but isn't PLO played on the flop mostly? And a top 1% vs a top 10% is like a 55-45?

Going to be a big mess of variance, and I think the NL hypers have that enough already ?

EDIT: apparantly I beat the $7 PLO ones pretty nicely when I mixed em in with my holdem. Tiny sample though .

Last edited by bbfg; 03-03-2012 at 05:05 PM.
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03-03-2012 , 06:56 PM
Any updates on revamped Battle Of The Planets? Or any other sng promotions?
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03-03-2012 , 10:04 PM
+1 to BOP revamp. F50s need to be included somehow
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03-03-2012 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wayneking7
+1 to BOP revamp. F50s need to be included somehow
Would make it too interesting to cheat in F50s IMO
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03-04-2012 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
I agree the concept PLO hypers is a bit unnecessary. I'm in no ways an Omaha expert, but isn't PLO played on the flop mostly? And a top 1% vs a top 10% is like a 55-45?

Going to be a big mess of variance, and I think the NL hypers have that enough already ?

EDIT: apparantly I beat the $7 PLO ones pretty nicely when I mixed em in with my holdem. Tiny sample though .
we are not talking about having PLO hypers, they already have them. people. are saying to add OMAHA HI/LO
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03-04-2012 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Would make it too interesting to cheat in F50s IMO
How would it be any worse for F50s than any other format?
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03-04-2012 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
With regard to the possibility of Omaha Hi-Lo hypers. Even if we deployed them, we couldn't deploy both PLO8 and NLO8 due to liquidity concerns. I would be interested to see if a consensus could be reached in the thread about which format is more likely to be successful.

Note this isn't about which format you personally prefer or which you believe requires more skill. Just which would prove more popular.

Hi Walmsley,
This is great - thanks!
Regarding which format to choose: NL is waaaay more popular - just look at the numbers of pl vs nl 18 man SNGs that currently run. Most players are more familiar with NL due to holdem also they like the thrill of going all in!
Just so you know I am not biased I actually prefer PL and believe that PL takes more skill. However I think that NL is the right choice for hypers since it is the most accessible.
Cheers,
Bob
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03-04-2012 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wayneking7
How would it be any worse for F50s than any other format?
coz 50% of the field cashes in? :P

as far as i am concerned they can give you some promotion along with hu sng players, even chances, 50% places payed in both formats, but not with the rest of population, sorry
there is simply to big of a chance to cash in 18/20 or 90/100, which is rather unlikely in other formats, it doesnt matter how the formula calculate points, it would be broken in some way.

/but general consensus is that we dont need BOP, majority(?) would prefer some volume'ish monthly promo, based on number of sngs/vpps, divided into stakes, rewarding sng tickets or reloads for certain goals etc, i wouldnt C a reason why fifty50 shouldnt be included then.
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03-04-2012 , 02:06 PM
Another point which I would like to raise is regarding the PLO8 18 man SNG's

For some reason these have just 15 seconds time bank whilst the NL ones have 45 seconds.

Can you fix it so that the plo8 18 mans have 45 seconds time bank too?

Its a nightmare 20 tabling these on such a short time bank!!!

Cheers,

Bob
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03-04-2012 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dybboss
coz 50% of the field cashes in? :P

as far as i am concerned they can give you some promotion along with hu sng players, even chances, 50% places payed in both formats, but not with the rest of population, sorry
there is simply to big of a chance to cash in 18/20 or 90/100, which is rather unlikely in other formats, it doesnt matter how the formula calculate points, it would be broken in some way.

/but general consensus is that we dont need BOP, majority(?) would prefer some volume'ish monthly promo, based on number of sngs/vpps, divided into stakes, rewarding sng tickets or reloads for certain goals etc, i wouldnt C a reason why fifty50 shouldnt be included then.
Obv its easier to cash in a F50, nut u wouldnt hand out the same amount of points as cashing in an 18 man. U also wouldnt hand out the same amount of points to someone who min cashed and another who cashed with 80% of the chips in play. Thus just min cashing in 18/20 games (still not as easy a task as u make it out to be) would prob still not get u anywhere near the top of the leaderboard. Im sure some sort of equivalent point system could be worked out.

But i do agree with making the BOP a volume promo instead.
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03-04-2012 , 06:23 PM
Stars is seeking representative from cash, mtts and sngs for a meeting with the brass. Maybe we can use this thread to choose a representative. If anyone is interested and thinks they'd be a good rep please speak up.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...posed-1175764/
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03-04-2012 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
Stars is seeking representative from cash, mtts and sngs for a meeting with the brass. Maybe we can use this thread to choose a representative. If anyone is interested and thinks they'd be a good rep please speak up.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...posed-1175764/

HOLY MOLY!

I was half kidding in my post about a sng rep and thought it would never happen!


GOOOOOOOO US SNG PEEPS!
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03-04-2012 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
For some reason these have just 15 seconds time bank whilst the NL ones have 45 seconds.
NL only has 15 too.
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03-04-2012 , 08:10 PM
so its a no on 27man sngs ?

i'd vote epitomised if he is up for it
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03-04-2012 , 09:30 PM
nah, dont waste your time simpledude16, from your posts ITT its obvious you are hostile towards hyper sngs, so you wont win any vote anyways^^

Spoiler:

but srsy, its natural evolution/trend of sng poker, any rep choosen has to be lobbying for full spectrum of stakes, up to highest, and not worrying about losing traffic at his 300$ turbos
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03-05-2012 , 07:08 AM
take BBZ, just for the awesomeness of having the first "buy a piece of my travel to the isle of man" - thread
excl. MU of course.
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