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02-21-2012 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gramps
If you've been waiting for months for Stars to add a new buyin level that you want to play ($15 9-max) and that might get a ton of traffic, and you're pissed that Stars didn't do it, that's a whole other issue.
i am just a little bit pissed, but not much :P.. was hoping for stress free grinding 15$ at 50$+/hour, now gonna have to mix (abi will be <10$..., and i am always scared of losing flips at higher stakes and winning at lower ;d) or switch to 6max that i played 20-50times less and dont feel comfortable at bubbles (HM has to update ev before i can even think about it)

Last edited by dybboss; 02-21-2012 at 09:04 PM.
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02-21-2012 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
In response to player demand, we are introducing six new hyper speed Sit & Gos.

6-Max $3.32 + $0.18
6-Max $14.41 + $0.59
6-Max $96.49 + $3.51

9-Max $1.39 + $0.11
9-Max $28.77 + $1.23
9-Max $96.32 + 3.68

We will monitor the impact of these new Hypers on our Turbo liquidity over the coming weeks. A decision will be made by mid-March as to whether or not to make any additional changes to the Hyper offering.
By additional changes do you mean adding more buyins? Or could taking some away that youve already added count as additional changes?
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02-21-2012 , 11:22 PM
give us 15$ 27man turbo trial run too, 15$ 18man runs lotssssss anway!!!
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02-22-2012 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
give us 15$ 27man turbo trial run too, 15$ 18man runs lotssssss anway!!!
+1
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02-22-2012 , 04:33 AM
When I go to Supercuts, they give me a card that gets stamped every haircut I get, and the 10th haircut is free!

Maybe a player-retention promotion at the micro/lower stakes where every "x" number of games you play at a certain buyin/rake, you get a free SNG ticket...

...but, you don't get to use them til the start of the next cycle/month. So someone plays a few hundred SNGs, loses the $100 they deposited, and decides "screw it, I'm tired of poker for a while."

At the start of the next month, they have 4-5 free SNG tickets sitting in their account, and may decide poker is good entertainment after all, and put in a number of hours and possibly $$ they otherwise would have spent doing something else.

Heck, you could even slightly increase the rake in applicable SNGs to pay for it (matching the $EV players are expected to get back).
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02-22-2012 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gramps
When I go to Supercuts, they give me a card that gets stamped every haircut I get, and the 10th haircut is free!

Maybe a player-retention promotion at the micro/lower stakes where every "x" number of games you play at a certain buyin/rake, you get a free SNG ticket...

...but, you don't get to use them til the start of the next cycle/month. So someone plays a few hundred SNGs, loses the $100 they deposited, and decides "screw it, I'm tired of poker for a while."

At the start of the next month, they have 4-5 free SNG tickets sitting in their account, and may decide poker is good entertainment after all, and put in a number of hours and possibly $$ they otherwise would have spent doing something else.

Heck, you could even slightly increase the rake in applicable SNGs to pay for it (matching the $EV players are expected to get back).
this is a good idea... the put it in the account next cycle (month?/week? stars probably knows the interval most recs are willing to redeposig) thing, not so much the increase rake thing

reduce BoP if you need to pay for it...


Thought a bit about it: the "play 10 get one free" is unsustainable, as it would be in excess of 100% RB, play 100 get one free is not very appealing, maybe "play x and qualify for bonus y [which needs to be cleared before being released]" the bonus itself might be SNG tickets... you would get the bonus rather easily and the clearing requirement would be again a bit more volume than what you put in to get it etc...
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02-22-2012 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
give us 15$ 27man turbo trial run too, 15$ 18man runs lotssssss anway!!!
Totally alter the buy-in imo. Make it a $20-$25 27 man.
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02-22-2012 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity8
Fix the rake increase you did back in May on the $16s (now $15s). I'm surprised there wasn't a boycott with so many 2p2'ers playing this level. You decreased the buy-in from 15 to 13.89 (lowering the game's profitability) as well as increased not only the rake%, but the total rake figure from 1 to 1.11 (again further lowering the game's profitability).

A 10% base ROI player went from earning 50c/game ((15*0.1)-1) to earning 27.9c/game ((13.89*0.1)-1.11), while PokerStars experiences a 11% increase (from $9 to $9.99 per game) in rake at a now lower buy-in.
+1
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02-22-2012 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by clownDontGetaReban
Totally alter the buy-in imo. Make it a $20-$25 27 man.




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02-22-2012 , 09:39 AM
bring the 45's 180's leaderboard!!!
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02-22-2012 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fgatorsusuck




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02-22-2012 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fgatorsusuck


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02-22-2012 , 02:50 PM
So day 2 of $30 9 man hypers, traffic still sucks.
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02-22-2012 , 03:05 PM
Itll prob take a week or two to pick up. Its not like all the rec players have been watching this thread and know theyre here. Theyll stumble onto them one day, get hooked and then look for them in the future. But i wouldnt huge traffic ever. I think 9man turbos 30+ have been slow to load for a while now too.
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02-22-2012 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
In response to player demand, we are introducing six new hyper speed Sit & Gos.

6-Max $3.32 + $0.18
6-Max $14.41 + $0.59
6-Max $96.49 + $3.51

9-Max $1.39 + $0.11
9-Max $28.77 + $1.23
9-Max $96.32 + 3.68

We will monitor the impact of these new Hypers on our Turbo liquidity over the coming weeks. A decision will be made by mid-March as to whether or not to make any additional changes to the Hyper offering.
Well done Stars! Thanks.
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02-22-2012 , 04:43 PM
where is 3.5$ 9max ?
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02-22-2012 , 06:58 PM
FWIW, the $30 6-max hypers got quite a bit more traffic as time went on (though that might have been due just to more grinders). Be interesting to see if traffic picks up at all after several weekends+
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02-22-2012 , 07:03 PM
Jackpot SNGs, displayed in the lobby in green. I.e. $6.52 + $.48 + $1 with the $1 distributed back entirely to the players.

The $1 goes to instant win prizes you can get when you win the SNG, hit quads or a straight flush, lose a bad beat, etc.
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02-22-2012 , 08:12 PM
they should put mark "new" when they open new tipe of sng's like it was few years ago
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02-22-2012 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Volume is rewarded via the VIP system... Maybe you can increase fish their volume by offering them double rewards, but I'm not too sure. I do like the idea of some sort of Iron Man ish thing though, where you are rewarded for steady volume rather than total volume.

I feel like the problem with the Battle of Planets is as follows:
-Fish can rarely get high up the leaderboard, it is demotivating for them to see how many players are "better than them" and the chance of them winning a high spot is near zero.
-Regs still need to run stupid hot to get a shot at any significant money, which increases the variance of these games. I figure most regs would prefer less rake or something more volume based

What is good about it:
-It increases competition and incentive to play!

So what I would suggest is that you try and create the best of both worlds.

-Keep the leaderboards, but reduce the prizes to the Battle of Planets monthly freeroll tickets for the top 20 on each leaderboard.
-Use some of the money to create monthly volume based SNG prizes incentive like Iron man, some stupid example:
200 VPPs 15 days a month: 20 dollars bonus for the next month
500 VPPs 15 days a month: 50 dollars " "
1000 VPPs 15 days a month: 100 dollars " "
200 VPPs 25 days a month: 45 dollars " "
500 VPPs 25 days a month: 125 dollars " "
1000 VPPs 25 days a month: 275 dollars " "

This would not necessarily attract new players, but would create an uptick in volume over all types of players.

Then use the rest of the money to create a SNG lottery tickets to complete the fun, where you get a lottery ticket for every 20 raked SNGs you play until a certain point where you would then get once every 100. At the end of the month there is a big draw where you can find out wether your tickets won anything. This would deff attract new players imo.

This is so awesome, pstars should just hire bbfg kids a genius
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02-22-2012 , 09:53 PM
I think the really cool thing about BBFG's lottery suggestion is he says in there,
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"where you get a lottery ticket for every 20 raked SNGs you play until a certain point where you would then get once every 100"
Take this concept even further, and make it, 10 lottery tickets for the first 50 games ( 1 lottery ticket per 5 sng) and then once every 50 sngs after.

Create a new graphic for lotteries in cashier; -people love the green bar in cashier, ( i know i do ) it's fun to earn rewards, you could add another tracker for "next sng lottery ticket"

I think this would draw a ton of new players to play at least 50 sngs a month, and some may get into a routine where they think, i gotta get my 50 sng's in this month to get my "easy" lottery tickets. If this was promoted in the news, it would easily draw new players to sit and goes, you have to remember guys, a lot of people don't even know what a sit and go is, but when there is a huge promotion in the news that says "Play Sit and Gos, earn lottery tickets" even if a bunch of new players don't know wtf a sng is they will know what a lottery ticket is and will likely be interested.

I guarantee you the lottery thing would bring in new players, and the bop improvements are neat and smooth out a fairly broken system. That may not be the answer to bop's current problems but it is better then any other suggestion I've seen, most people are just complaining about it. (right fully so)
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02-23-2012 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
Itll prob take a week or two to pick up. Its not like all the rec players have been watching this thread and know theyre here. Theyll stumble onto them one day, get hooked and then look for them in the future.
Yea agree, people aren't really going to notice these new games right away, especially as PS isn't advertising them . I've noticed a small pool of fish in the $100 6m turbos that seem to play 1-2 at a time, haven't seen that many guys just play 1 random game.

Overall the $100 6m look like I expect them to be, lot of 5 and 6 reg games, have gotten maybe 6-7 4 reg games in so far in my small sample on my 1st day back on PS.

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02-23-2012 , 07:35 AM
I accidentally regged in 2 $100s the first day they were introduced and both had 2 fish in them. I am really surprised regs are actually mixing these in while 20+ tabling though. A good player that is only playing a few 100s is going to be able to exploit that.
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02-23-2012 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dybboss
that is stupid reasoning. 30$ were added today, there is nothing to be killed yet. I am 100% sure that 15$ would run several times more often than 30$ do (so from hypers point of view that would make stars more money, they werent added for some other non hyper-pool related reason),

there are plenty of players that were forced to grind 7$ for months lol and they dont have 10-15k to jump into 30$. while they would insta jump into 15$ cose they still will be soft and wont require 500 buyins... 200-300 is enough, so thats 'grindable' on 7$, while grinding a 30$ bankroll is several months work assuming no cashouts.
+1 Perfectly explained.
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02-23-2012 , 12:28 PM
i dont understand either why there is no 9man 15$ hyper
traffic at 30$ isn't enough, again bad decision....
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