Imo antes should start at t100 not earlier. Lets have sng promos first then we can consider other things

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Doesnt changing the structure so good players make more, and bad players lose faster, actually hurt the sustainability of the games?

Would you say players would lose at a 3% faster rate with antes? Does this really hurt the player pool? Ultimately what makes a sng players ROI is net deposits, if the players buyins are getting recycled at a 3% greater rate it's more rake for stars and not really influencing their mind on whether to deposit. Fish love antes if anything this will encourage net deposits as far as SNGs to go up.

not if more recs choose to play a turbo then they now do?

Have you ever 1tabled a turbo sng with 7 regs 1 semi reg and 1 fish? fish is ****** bored for 20 minutes. If ending time is significantly shorter you can just add a few extra minutes at the start, or adjust rake accordingly, but no antes fullring or even 6max up untill 100/200!!!! is not of this time anymore. akes the bad regs play too nitty, so the recs dont have fun.
Lee Jones or whoever was in charge of sngs randomly thought up this structure ten years ago with a few of his colleagues and apart from the 150/300 ante level nothing has changed, ldo that some random structure thought up ten years ago is not the optimal structure, why do u think every new sng has a different structure (5050s/hypers/hu hypers)

+1 Antes, good idea do it up.

+1 Antes

I haven't played 9 mans lately mostly 50/50s but would def move into some more 9 mans if antes were introduced early

What happened last time when the blind structure was changed? (May 2011)
What's going to be different about this time?

+1 antes

They consult with players and then announce the changes in advance ldo.

+1 antes

I think very long term meca is right, the structure was thought of 11 yrs ago before Lee even came to the company. So ldo its not accurate. At the same time ppl hate big changes so one step at a time.

Now that we have some support, let's hope PS tries to get a survey done and/or trial at low stakes and observe impact (do more ppl sit?) There is a long process for any change to ever happen, but I know PS reps are reading, let's hope they take a shot.

So are you posting from IOM right now? Anything you can say? Is rake on the agenda? I remember that the word early 2012 was that 2013 would be a good year for discussing rake changes, the whole FTP **** might have changed that though.

Have seen you mention this sort of structure change a few times, and am surprised people see merit in it.

I think its strange that you think having a blind increase and introduction of antes at the same time is good.

Going from 40/80 to 60/120/15 would increase the cost of a round 9handed from 120 to 315. Having 163% increases from one round to another in a 9M can basically never be a good structure. I'm sure some players would love it, exploit it to its fullest extent, etc but it would be fundamentally a wrong change.

If Stars do change (and I think the turbo structure is fine at the moment) I really hope they continue to see the merit in having the first ante round as a repeat round like the current 100/200 to 100/200/A.

+1 to the antes
but some effective sng promotions >>>> structure change atm imo.

please dont change the structure. Its very good as it is!

but please do some sng promotions!

Is 300+ hypers in the discussion? This should help to fix the Jupiter BoP a bit.

we have a sub forum for trolling

lol, just because i dont agree, that means im trolling? Great job Harleem lol.

I dont want a structure change. And because u want, does that make u a troll?

Jesus dude. Wake up!

I can only see one downside to changing the structure that benefits less nitting and that is that the gametime goes down severely. If this happens it should be adjusted with either some extra time of some sort or a lower rake.

Pokerstars clearly has the vision to destroy nittyness because it destroys the games. Just look at their move from dealt to contributed rakeback in cashgames. I feel like chaning the structure in turbos, which clearly benefits nits alot because lagging it up has relatively low payoff without antes instead its better to open 5-10 extra tables and rake more.. also it gives less fun to the fish because the games are f boring with 7 players out of 9 that play 9 vpip in the first 3 levels of the game.

But why you don't want a structure change? Just because you don't want to re-learn ranges, adjust etc. or do you have any reasonable argument?

There are tons of people just posting "+1", why aren't you asking them for their motivation? Let people say their opinion in whatever way they want .

No thanks to adding more antes, no thanks to faster games/less avg lenght of turboes without signicant reduce in rake.

Structure is fine as it is. Dont change it.

If people wants a faster game, well play hypers.

Yes more sitngo promotions please.

Now u can all flame me.