Hello all,
Time to address the issues in this thread , but I want to be upfront and say that anything that has to do with the rake changes (both implemented and announced) and the removal of Battle of the Planets is not within the scope of my posts here. I appreciate that it is a very hot topic these days, but communication on this is handled through other channels than myself.
Having said that, I have a couple of bits of news that I hope will be well received. First of all, we have now implemented blind levels based on number of hands for all 6 Max Hyper Satellites. Please let us know if you find this change to be positive.
As mentioned before, 6 Max Cash Hypers is the next place where we are considering making this change, and I would be really interested in hearing from the involved players about two areas in particular:
- To what extent is stalling an issue in 6 Max Cash Hypers?
- At which stakes do you play?
- If we implement hands per blind level for these tournaments, do the numbers in the table in my last post give a good representation of how these tournaments normally run?
There was some feedback to my previous post, but more is always better in this case. We don’t really want to fix something that is not broken.
Secondly, at the time of you reading this post, we have implemented a new blind structure in the $1.50 NLHE Turbo tournaments (both 6- and 9-max). It is literally a copy of a previous proposal by Alex Wice and looks like this for the first seven levels:
The remaining levels will be the same as they have been for years.
I will look at these tournaments in a couple of weeks to get an opinion on how the new blind levels have affected volume, total running time and time to get to the money. Once that is done, we will make a decision on whether to roll this out to other Turbo STT tournaments. In the mean time, feel free to give us input on what you think about this change and particularly on what you think about the chosen structure.
And with that, back to the normal Q&A:
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Baard,
Any update on functionality in the client to autoregister for SNGS you mentioned would be launched with PS7?
We do have such functionality in the pipeline, but unfortunately I can’t promise that it will be available very soon. It is a quite complex piece of functionality, so we must absolutely sure that it meets the players needs and that it runs without any serious bugs, before we can release it to the public.
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Originally Posted by mindonthegrind
Regarding the SP&G's, its such a shame they are introduced IMO. Find the pokerstar in you, was the slogan of PS. You could dream of making a living playing poker or even becoming the next superstar. You had to study and learn the game and be convinced you could beat the other guys someday.
Now it comes down to whether or not you are lucky on something that looks like a one armed bandit, slot machine..
Time will tell, but IMO the thing that retains new players is that they slowly evolve in the skill game, and I think the new players you see entering PS will leave sooner (relative to new players in the pre SP&G era).
Anyhows, it appears the game is here to stay.
I just wanted to say that you have to watch out when interpreting your numbers about people playing and other hyperformats running. I myself play 6max hypers, and RECREATIONAL traffic has been absolute lowest of lowest. However OVERALL traffic is pretty decent im sure. This is because a bunch of players on 30s + are aiming for SNE and are playing everyday. And they can play a lot of 6 reg games and 5 reg games because making SNE will make up for the negative ROI preRB. So loosing 20k to gain 30k is still profit
But, after the year is over, and all the recreational players are still gone, people will simply stop playing. Because 5 or 6 regs paying 4% in rake.. Nobody can win anymore and traffic will drop significantly.
So, be careful interpreting your stats about games running. The only good thing about the SP&G's are that they might introduce new players. Now Baard, try to come up with a plan to retain those players! Just spinning a wheel and have a 2x 80% of the time wont last (for each individual player that is, maybe to have a steady new influx it will last who knows). I heard a lot of recreationals complain on the EPT livestream today (about riggedness, only 2x etc). But poker being the beautiful game that is, and takes a minute to learn, but a lifetime to master is much more interesting long term. So try to get a new influx through SP&Gs but make sure they are channeled through to other games.
So in a short while promote the games that are closest in gameplay. Those will be HU hypers and 6 max hypers , followed by (MTT) SNG in general and those playes might evolve to MTT's as well.
So many players back in the day started learning poker through SNGs. Actively promoting these games to new players after a short while will be good for the poker eco system, for the regs and for PS itself because those customers will be retained longer. The golden SNG promo had the 'being lucky' element in it whilst playing hypers/SNGs, so thats a good example, or giving 6maxsng, HU sng, 9max or we tickets w a deposit etc.
Good luck Baard
We are definitely aware that some of the effects of Spin & Gos might not be felt until after New Year, and it is something that we try to account for when we think ahead to possible promotions and potential changes in the game offering. And I do agree with you that it is very important to encourage new players to check out games other than Spin & Gos. Being the place to come to for any form of poker has always been one of PokerStars’ goals and will continue to be so in the future.
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
Baard,
Could you please work on having some $350+7 hyper satellites running all week? They currently only run for the day or two before the Super Tuesday, and the excuse has always been that the Super Tuesday isn't generated until then so there can't be satellites for it. Why not generate it earlier so that we can play some high stakes satellites all week? This would be an easy bone to throw us since some of the traffic has been taken away from the SNE grinders.
The problem with running these satellites all week, is that it may take away from the satellites leading up to the majors on the weekend. Having said that, I have moved them up to 18.30ET on Sundays, so that you will be able to catch the tail-end of the Sunday traffic, at least.
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Originally Posted by theMBK
Now you've implemented SpinNGos I really think SNGs need streamlining.
One thought is to just get rid of reg speeds, and have a 3 minute clock on hypers (or go purely to hands per level for this as you are considering) and 6 minutes on turbos. Would be a good way to bring in a new turbo structure.
Get rid of KO 9-mans. Maybe have PKOs exclusive to 90-mans, and have them at $2.50, $5, $15, $30 or something.
Just my thoughts. Some kind of action would be nice.
As playing habits change, it is natural that we make changes to the offering as well. However, I don’t think we need to make any knee-jerk reaction at this point, but once New Year has passed, we should have more information to go on.
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Originally Posted by pokerplayer604
has there ever been mention of hyper 50/50s?
Not a suggestion that I have seen very often at all. Is this something that a lot of players see a need for? As the poster after you mentions, the Turbo 50/50s are actually a lot faster than regular Turbos, so a Hyper would not be that significantly different, I think.
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Originally Posted by $kill Game
Pokerstars 7 for MAC timeframe?
3 max hypers that aren't spin n go's?
I don’t think 3 max hypers is something we will run anytime soon. Besides already offering them in Spin & Gos, I don’t see think it is a great idea to further split the 6 Max/HU Hyper liquidity.
The PS7 client for Mac is just around the corner. When the next client release comes out, you will get a menu item in PS6 where you can try out the Beta version of PS7 if you want.
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Originally Posted by $kill Game
Also, do you have ANY idea of what the changes will be for supernova elite 2016? It effects those who are deciding on whether to go for supernova elite in 2015.
Thanks
It is not my area of responsibility, but no one would be able to able to tell you what the changes for 2016 are going to be. The simple reason is that the decision has not been made yet, and is probably some time away from being made.
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Originally Posted by acbarone
Why is note taking not allowed in spins? Are HUDs allowed? If so, that makes absolutely zero sense.
I tested at play money tables and am able to take notes during Spin & Gos. If you are still not able to, I suggest you send a bug report to
support@pokerstars.com and include as much detail as possible.
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
FWIW, anything above a 2x multiplier should be paid out in Tournament $.
Or just get rid of em
I am not certain what you want to achieve by paying out the higher prize tiers in T$, but I think that most players prefer cold, hard cash.
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Originally Posted by chinagambler
I'm probably wasting my time suggesting this but would be cool if you ran some STT promo similar to the husng one with rake discount if every player in your STT has already played x games with you during the day/week/month. 6 reg hyper turbo games are unbeatable even after rake back so regs wait for at least 1 random but if they could get a rake discount on 6 reg games it would increase action. This wouldn't change rake in normal games that would run anyway but you could rake extra games that regs would otherwise not play.
We are re-visiting the HUSNG promo you mention from December 1st in order to give something to back to the players who engage in reg-wars. I have some problems seeing exactly how this can be done for 6 max tournaments, though. In HUSNGs, we can easily look at who plays the same opponent at least x number of times, but the same lineup occurs far less often in 6-max tournaments for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by bobstaker
Been reading twoplustwo for years and thought it was about time to post on something important.
Pokerstars attack on scripts bumhunting is awesome. Now all they need to do is tackle the scripts that do the same in sngs.
Programs like sharkystrator, tableninjas table selection tool, and others that are about, are ruining games. I play the occasional 6 max hyper and am almost positive that more games would run if there were blind lobbies for registration.
Not knowing who was already registered in a 6 max hyper would stop people attacking and pouncing on fish from a sng perspective too. Plus, once the game kicks off the player names could be visible as they are now so your hud stats work. You are just prevented from being a douché and taking money from those that keep the poker economy running = the fish.
I can't wait for the day when I read twoplustwo and don't see a reg complaining they can't get enough games running. Stop being a b***h and load up.
This principle of blind lobbies would work in other sngs too. Imagine an 18 man where you couldnt see the 15 regs in there already. Games would kick off there more often too as you dont see them. Come on Pokerstars Baard, save our sngs!!
p.s. I would love huds to be banned too. I might use a low level hud, but only because everyone else does. Lets get poker back on a fair playing ground for everyone. Let's hope the potential return to the US market heralds a new age of poker. Please America allow poker in your great country, but ban huds for it to be allowed back.
Signed,
A poker player who sees the future
Bind lobbies is something that we have discussed in the past, particularly in relation to HU SNGs where it received a mixed reaction. I do think it is likely that we will see Sit & Gos free of game selection sometime in the future.
Having said that, it is not currently something that we are discussing for the near future, but on the other hand, such changes are often made when something comes up that creates an urgent need.
One potential issue I see with blind lobbies for non-HU tournaments is that a program like Sharkystrator will come along and keep track of how many regulars are registered to the tournaments, and have other regs wait for the next lobby once a certain number of regs have registered for the first one. I am not sure such a situation would be better than the one we have today.
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
my god, give out more golds so u can end this promo quicker, holy *** it sucks
The Golden Sit & Go promotion is set up to run for a week on average, but since the variance in the rewards are so high, particularly in the Milestones, the running time of the promo will also vary. By the time you read this, it should all be over, though.
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Originally Posted by Brown Gord
Yeah I look and see like always a x 2 for 1st... and it seems you need to wait ages for a Golden SNG anyway.
The parameters of the promotion was exactly the same this time around as it was the previous time. The rakeback % was actually a little higher this time around in order to account for the smaller total volume we are having as a result of the Spin & Gos.
Thanks,
Baard