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Old 05-25-2012, 10:59 AM   #301
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Anyone who attempts to predict the future decades out with any claims of accuracy is full of ****. It is not possible. Things are bad and there is a real chance it could get worse, but ultimately, I am hoping that a paradigm shift happens and the world unifies through the internet. We then move into an era where the parasites in our governments and corporations no longer can live off of us.
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Well foreign investment really doesn't account for that much of the market, although it is somewhat sizeable and it is slowing down. Condo development isn't slowing down at all. Right now Toronto has the most condo buildings under construction in the world. Yes the demand to live in Toronto is very high but I think it is somewhat unsustainable with the amount of new builds going up.

Also the Bank of Canada rate being at 1% for so long could cause a lot of problems. Tons of people have been buying because money is cheap. When rates goes up people can't afford mortgages, bubble/price correction. Also HELOC's are the dumbest thing ever and need to be enforced a lot more strictly. The Bank of Canada and CMHC realized something had to be done and are tightening lending criteria but it could be to late to avoid a lagre drop in housing prices
So 2012 Canada time = 2007 USA time?!?
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So 2012 Canada time = 2007 USA time?!?
It shouldn't be as bad. Toronto and Vancouver are the main overvalued spots right now. The Vancouver market seems to be cooling down and both Toronto/Vancouver are highly desirable places to live/work so the demand for housing won't totally crash.

Also the lending restrictions in Canada although to lose are still way better then they were in the US and are getting stricter. No 0% down mortgages and using that house to leverage another loan.
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Obv I was being provocative for fun, and I was careful not to say x will happen. There are lots of interesting possibilities though.

I think chances of hyperinflation in Japan are close to 100% though. When it will happen is very unclear. I know Dylan Grice at Soc Gen, and he's forecast 5 -10 years which is where I go my numbers from.

I think that the Eurozone will definitely break up, because it's not possible for it to continue without a political union which it doesn't look like the europeans citizens will vote for. I also think it will carry on for a long time because there's is so much political capital tied up in it.

I've read several pieces about how the USA might break up within a few generations. There are some very strong arguments that suggest that there are likely future circumstances which will make the Union extremely hard to sustain.

Two thoughts of my own which I'd be interested in comments on:

1. The extremely wealthy countries countries like the USA could take a 50% fall in GDP and still be twice as rich as Peru. The idea that financial collapse on that scale will cause revolution because it always has in the past seems to me to be less secure when the new poor are not going hungry.

2. The information and power assymetry between the people and the government in the US has reached a point where revolutionary overthrow of the government (I think a constitutional "right") is probably no longer physically conceivable in the USA (hence I think break up can only come from States seceding)

The standard calculation for GDP [GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports)] is recognised as a poor figure on which to base calculations of economic growth.

As the inventor of the calculation said himself:

"Distinctions must be kept in mind between quantity and quality of growth, between costs and returns, and between the short and long run. Goals for more growth should specify more growth of what and for what."

In this era where public and private debt plays such a huge role in macroeconomics, the calculation is badly skewed because so much of private consumption and government spending comes from borrowed money.

You normally see debt/gdp ratios, but Debt/government revenues can be more interesting! That is what is the government debt as a % of total annual tax receipts. Presenting the information this way makes Japan's situation somewhat clearer:



Nations are not households, and can sustain much larger ratios, especially if, as is supposed to be the case, the debt is incurred for +EV infrastructure investments. But when the debt is incurred almost entirely to finance public consumption, that's a different kettle of fish.

It's OK to borrow 3x your annual income to buy a home, but borrowing 1x your annual income to pay for nights out in stripclubs is not economically sound. But that is effectively what our governments (in developed countries, or as someone I recently read suggested they should be called, insolvent welfare state nations) have been doing for the last 20-30 years.

Japan's borrowing is almost entirely to finance strip club visits, the country isn't going to make a penny profit from the money it has borrowed - the reckoning will come soon.

For all the other countries in that graph with ratios above 100% I believe that there will be severe economic consequences that will lead to these countries becoming very much poorer than they are today.

I think of it like this: if your GDP is artificially inflated because your government has borrowed 10% of GDP per annum to finance consumption, then at some point your GDP must reduce to reflect not just the level it would be at without the borrowing, but also the interest payments on the debt that have been accrued.

Economic growth (in terms of Total Factor Productivity - which basically measures growth excluding government spending) has averaged 1.35% since the end of WW2. There is no reason to think that future "real" growth in developed nations will be above this figure. When one adds that this figure has been obtained during a period of awesome and unprecedented technological advance it would be prudent to assume that it is the upper bound for sustainable growth, not a baseline from which we expect to advance.

The idea that economic growth will deal with the debt is probably not a realistic aspiration: it will require a restucturing of the economy to ensure that tax receipts exceed government spending possible for decades.

I have exactly no confidence that elected politicians in the USA or UK can actually achieve this. Hence my pessimism and reference to Oswald Spengler who saw liberal democracies as but a step on the road to more dictatorial forms of government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_the_West

Well worth a read - the whole book is available as a free download (it's out of copyright here.)
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Out of curiosity, what's the best way (or "a way") for Americans to buy Canadian bonds? Are you limited to buying some fund that's going to hit you for 1%+/year in fees?
There are a few ways. For a fund, you could buy an etf which would lower the cost. Directly, you can buy Canadian bonds on the secondary market through most brokers. You can buy Canadian bonds in US or Canadian currency as well (Govt bonds). I'd guess you could also open an account in Vancouver w/ a broker or perhaps your bank and buy at auction. I'm not sure of this, but I'd imagine you could buy direct from the Canadian Govt as well. I'd check out the tax implications before doing any of that - I'd guess it wouldn't be huge, but I'd check. Also there is some currency risk that you may or may not want to hedge.

More on international investing from the SEC:

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/ininvest.htm
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Really liked this article from a US sports writer - largely about New Jersey's push for sports gambling, but he points out the lol-asymmetry of gambling laws in the United States (and mentions a poker example in his opening riff).

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/legaliz...4H3k6.VjE5nYcB

I'd love to see more mainstream writers here espousing similar views and calling out the status quo for the lol-tardedness that is American gambling laws.
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I hate the whole cooking shows hype as much as the next guy but I just tried making my eggs like Gordon Ramsay makes them and it was ****ing delicious! Will never stop making em this way now .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUP7U5vTMM0
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:39 PM   #310
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Anyone grinding the hyper satellites ?How many vpps can you get in them per hour? thinking no table limits or stakes.

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I hate the whole cooking shows hype as much as the next guy but I just tried making my eggs like Gordon Ramsay makes them and it was ****ing delicious! Will never stop making em this way now .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUP7U5vTMM0
I don't always make scrambled eggs but when I do I Ramsay it up. Those bitches are so ****ing fluffy
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:46 PM   #313
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I'd use bacon grease instead of butter. Just sayin'. But the eggs do look delicious.

Question for you youngsters: A relative of mine "unfriended" me recently. Basically, we disagree on political issues and she obviously got fed up with trying to defend her position when I challenged her views and posts.

What's my play?

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Old 05-26-2012, 10:01 PM   #314
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I think you should contact her and ask her to explain her position more clearly. Let her know that when you get older your brain isn't so good, and so you find it difficult to let go of your dumb ideas about politics.

Let her know that your heart is now open to learn the truth that she sees, and that only when she acted to unfriend you did the blinders drop from your eyes and you could perceive what a ridiculous position your political views really were and how incredibly correct hers are. Let her know you'll be voting for her candidate as soon as possible!

Dealing with the young is easy mate!
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Ask to be friends but not talk politics.
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