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Originally Posted by konar
Either you aren't understanding what I'm trying to say or I'm not able to follow what you're saying.
NP and I'm not trying to cause problems here - just trying to explain
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Basically I'm the aggregate of the ev_diff values should be off by a lot because the payout structure is calculated wrong.
If you think about the effect it'll have on the EV_diff calculation then it really won't be that big: it'll just have a small scaling effect on each value calculated for each all-in (ie: the value's sign will still always be correct but it'll be a bit more or less than they should be). The bigger the error in the payout structure, the bigger the scaling effect will be.
Also, a good amount of the largest "swings" that make up the red line happen when you are heads up (where the payout isn't important).
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So someone playing appropriately loose will end up with an artificially low red line, and someone playing too tight will end up with an artificially inflated red line.
How somebody plays has no effect on the way the EV_diff values are calculated: they could be the biggest nit in the world or go all-in every hand and it would still work out fine... The calculation just needs to know about the parameters of the all-in (eg: the %s and the stacks). For the same reason their play has no effect on whether the sum of EV_diff values for their games is positive or negative (which equates to the red line being above the green line or vice versa).
This is true for any payout structure you choose; however wrong it is compared to what they are actually playing.
If it still doesn't make sense then hopefully somebody else will chime in here as I'm probably not explaining my thoughts on this very well
Juk