What are diffrences in formats between 888 and pokerstars in 6max super turbo games? Is that affect strategy? I have never played on 888, can anyone write comparsion?

I Have a few simple theoretical questions about Double or Nothing tournaments

1. Since the game is all about survival, should c bet sizes during early stages (especially for small pots with large SPRs) be smaller compared to in usual SNGs?
2. With a big stack on the bubble should you be open shoving wider against mid-stacked players compared to short stacks?

1. If the smaller cbet size results in more calls it might not turn out that good. So, yes, but be wary, if you notice people play back more vs ur smaller cbets you might want to readjust. Basically u want to bet the smallest cbet sizing that u need to get the job done in every format.

2. Yes deffinitely, however this is only true if the people u shove into are aware that they have to call very tight.

50,000 starting stack how can anyone get knocked out on Day 1?

im not an expert but Id say by going all in and losing a hand

I've played in several microstakes SNGs where on the bubble with effective stacks of <10BBs people open limp instead of jamming. Should I still be playing push/fold?

My understanding is that when two people go all in on the bubble, the rest of the players not involved in the hand see their prize pool equity increase if someone busts. With other players not jamming, I constantly find myself being the only one going all in and being called with a risk of being eliminated whilst other players play a "low risk" strategy.

I'm sure there are many variables which could affect the optimal strategy (e.g. limping ranges, calling all in ranges, stack sizes, payout structure, etc) but in general should I stick to a push/fold strategy?

HI everyone,

I am new here. Looking for the correct posting page. I play brick and mortar tournaments with $50-65 buy. Am I in the right spot? If so, great and where else do you recommend I look for further questions, insights and places to post threads into this particular game as well? Thanks.

Hello!
I have a question about ev line in stts. There are a lot of other factors of variance, that the ev doesn't consider (card distribution, etc.), so after a small sample the ev line isn't correct either, but it should still be more accurate than the $ line.
So basically what is a good sample, after we can say, that our actual ev roi is x +/- 1-2% (where x is the ev roi we see in hm2)?
Thanks!

ok since every single new thread get closed in the STT section, I'm gonna ask my question here and hopefully i will get the answer I'm looking for from some veterans here around!

Ok, I'm using Poker Copilot software ( u might not heard about, its quite simple and cheaper not better than HEM and PT just simpler )

the real question here is whenever i check my tournament all-in-EV graph, i can displayed either in bb or tournament chips! these 2 options are shown in a completely different wayyyyyy and still is the same data!

i know this is related for example with the amount of chips u win hu when u beat the villain with a lower equity value! also as the blinds increase u are supposed to have less "amount" of bb but u can win way more chips if u beat the villain! Damn , i don't even know how to explain the way i think it works! the thing is i was checking the stickies and there are some discussion about ICM and cEV and $EV but nothing seems to answer may question!


graph shown in BB


grape shown in tournament chips

please don't mind the sample or numbers! just why the huge difference between 2 graph that are supposed to be the same!

Which one of those should i be paying more attention?

It seems like you've been playing some MTT's (or some 180s or whatever)?

The reason they differ so much is because you've seemingly won a few MTT's. At the end of MTT's, the blinds are huge but the effective stacks (in BB) are small. Thus, you win a lot of chips if you win but not a lot of BB's (or you lose a lot of chips but not a lot of BB's).

The BB-graph is the one you'll be able to "learn" the most from of the two.

This is more related to the MTT or MTTSNG forums rather than the STT forum (i.e. this one), though.

If this truly is data from STT's... Something is wrong with the software (its importing function or something).

thanks for the answer! u are right! yes, i won few mtts and thats why they differ so much, probably cuz of the chips i won on the final All-in which i probably had a lower equity or whatever! anyways many thanks,

btw; the graph is general for both, mtts and stts at least in my software they are displayed in the same section !

Why is the 6max hyper format is different for satties?

There are no antes in the 888 6max so i guess u have to play a bit tighter.

no HU I guess

Hi, I am new here and I have a question with regard to the following spot (since I am quite a newbie, I suppose this is the correct place to ask this sort of question):
This is a $0.5 9-man turbo on stars during the bubble (payout structure is standard .5/.3/.2), villain is the biggest stack 26BB in the BTN and Hero has 7BB in BB with KQs. Villain was actively blind stealing during the bubble and his overall stats was VP51/PR22/3B 9 (37 hands, so not really significantly useful, but pretty lag I'd say). What is the range of my 3bet shove here?
I think KQs would be the bottom of my 3-bet shove range here (approximately 8-10%). Is this range too wide?
ICM gives 3.5% +$EV shoving range against villain's 16% BTN stealing and 8% calling the shove range.
One thing that troubles me here is that I expected villain to fold way more than 50% of his stealing range here since he might be open wider than 16%. Is this reasoning/assumption correct?
Thank you all for your input in advance

With that stack you definitely want the shove. Against a typical 50% range, you have 58% equity. If his vpip is that high he is stealing even more, but it's a somewhat small sample size. I like to reseal with a range that is a little bit better than half of his range, but it depends on several factors.

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Thank you very much. I was studying similar spots like this. I was wondering what would be a reg's standard steal range be here? I ran into such spots couple of times (just started to play sng few days ago) and whenever I assumed that villain is quite loose (judging from limited hand sample and his tendency at the table) and 3-bet shove resteal, I always got called by a better hand. Is that possible at this micro level, population tendency of steal is somewhat tighter?

You already mentioned "typical 50% range", is this somewhat "standard" range in this spots for the big stack? I would imaging this is only true when both SB and BB are calling with a range around 5%-10%? If I were the big stack, should I shove steal or min-bet steal? since the effective stack size is around 7BB?

I think it's standard, but I'm not sure about the $0.50 sit n goes. You have to find that out for yourself. I guess what I mean is that I raise with a 50% range on the button. Basically A2s+ A3o+, K2s+, Q5s+, Q9o+, J7s+,J9o+, T8s+, T9o+, and suited connectors and one gapped down to 65. It might be 49%,but you get the idea. With a 50% VP$IP, this player is actually raising with more hands than that.
In the later stages of the tournament. In a low stakes live MTT I might even steal more and that's what I consider the bread and butter of tournament strategy.

I sincerely doubt that you are always called with a better hand given his range. It is possible that there are a bunch of nits who don't even think about stealing here and are not positionally aware. If that's the case you have to adjust.

For example, if they do raise with 20%, then I would shove with 8% of my hands, but I doubt this is the case on the button and it's definitely not the case with this Villan.

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Thanks a lot. This is clear to me now.

I've seen a couple of people (incl. River Prayer) mix 6- and 18-man hyper super-KOs. How standard is it?

I thought those two formats are very different animals, not only because of the payout structure differences (the bubble in an 18-man is 4-handed, followed by a 3-handed bubble similar to the 6-man one), but because of the stack depth. There seems to be significantly more room for minraise and/or postflop play in 6-mans. The first hand of a 6-man SKO is less trivial than the first hand of an 18-man one - bounty and ICM considerations are intertwined in the former.

What do regs do to help themselves distinguish between formats better if they do mix, besides setting different table felts and possibly dragging them to different areas of the screen? I've tried these methods when attempting to mix 18- and 24-mans, but it didn't work well - I still misclicked on the 5-handed bubbles of 24-mans sometimes as if they were pre-bubbles of 18-mans This kind of a problem also arises when 6-man SKOs are mixed with 6-man hyper satellites, etc.

I've never played an SKO or mixed other than a couple of musclicks here and there. Before black Friday I played a lot of $6 LHE 6 max sngs and there was a lot of dead money because I suspect they were trying to play NLHE.

Sorry.

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can anyone point me in the direction of some software or charts for unexploitable push fold strategy in Spin&Go's/Jackpot SNG's

Please note that, on 2+2, Spin & Gos are discussed in the HUSnG forum, in particular, in the Spin beginners thread and the main Spin discussion thread. Particular Spin & Go hand discussions can be posted as separate threads in the HUSnG & Spin forum.

To answer your question, there are GTO solutions by Simple Postflop and Nash charts in Coffeeyay's pack 'Beating Spin & Go Poker'.

Hi everyone!

First post here, have been reading a bit already and thanks for all the great information.

I've started the process of learning how to play 9 player Sit n Gos. I was in a spot just now that I'm not quite sure about.





Considering that I'm not the only short stack, could this be a fold instead of a shove with A4o? Also, is the call out of the BB with A7o correct here?

My feeling is that if I were the only short stack this would always be a shove, but with the villain at the same chip count the decision gets a lot closer. I just don't have enough experience yet to feel confident about this situation.

Thanks in advance!

Shoving A4o is good and standard, unless there are good reasons not to, such as a maniac in SB and BB. Calling A7o is also good and standard, given that he faces a shove from the other shortstack. But then again, since you have doubts shoving A4, calling A7 might not be that great.

I think you both played the hand fine.