****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

[jugglingeek]

$1.50 6-max Hypers on stars. What sort of ROI can I expect and how many do I need to play before I can discount variance and decide if I'm actually a winning player? I'm playing them simply to rack up the FPPs to earn the welcome bonus. I've done 261 of them and have a ROI of 11.36% but I'm on a big up swing at the moment, between game 160 - 200 I was hovering around break even but I've been up $40 after 70 games. I know they are swingy. After say 1000 games is varience still going to be a factor

[Carreira]

Originally Posted by thepiper777

In short yes you could have a 200 buy in downswing. FWIW 18 mans have higher levels of variance than 9 mans and coping with them is probably the hardest part of grinding sngs. The worst thing you can do when things turn bad n nothing holds, or you run kings into aces over n over, or you cant win a flip, etc etc is alter your strategy n play scared.

For example if someone is shoving on you every hand and you have a hand like AT or A9 n you know that you probably have the best hand and would normally snap call but the last 10 times you did that you got sucked out on or ran into a monster hand, the worst thing you can do is play scared, fold and hope for better. If you know you're running bad and have a solid strategy, keep playing that strategy and hope your luck changes.

Note that I said "if you KNOW you're running bad...", I am not advocating always playing the same way in the face of huge losses. If you have a coach who is analysing your game it sounds to me like its some ugly variance, but keep trying to look for ways to improve your game and ride out the harder times.

Look at the samples of the best 18 man grinders, notice their downswings and compare them to your own - you'll probably find they've had some pretty hard times too.

Hey guys, sorry about the long quote but i thought i should tell you how it ended.

The downswing came close to the 200 buyins but now i realize it was a mix of running bad, playing bad and drifting heavily.. after that down i got a new coach and he improved my game by a lot, helping me beat the down in just a month.

This are my last 3 months of the 18mans (3.5s and 7s).



Just wanted to let you know everything worked fine, thanks for the answers!.

[brim]

I feel like I played this hand really badly, villain is 43/30. Should I have just folded/3bet pre?

Poker Stars, $1.40 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12915882

CO: 490 (16.3 bb)
BTN: 518 (17.3 bb)
SB: 550 (18.3 bb)
Hero (BB): 528 (17.6 bb)
UTG: 456 (15.2 bb)
MP: 458 (15.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A
UTG folds, MP raises to 60, 3 folds, Hero calls 30

Flop: (153) 4 4 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets 90, Hero raises to 180, MP calls 90

Turn: (513) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets 200, MP raises to 215 and is all-in, Hero calls 15

River: (943) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Results: 943 pot
Final Board: 4 4 9 3 K
Hero showed 4 A and won 943 (485 net)
MP showed T T and lost (-458 net)

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[loxxii]

How do you know which rule applies? Say you have a draw. You shouldnt call for much more than 10% per the 5/10 rule, but what if you are getting more than enough odds? Should you push even if you expect to be called or fold in spite of the odds or just ignore the 5/10 rule and call?

[thepiper777]

you'd need to know how long a session you're gonna play. If you're gonna play for 1 hour at a time obv you'll get less games in than if you played for 4 hours due to the length of time it takes to load up the games and finish a session.

An easy way to do it is to just play a session - then count (or use a site like sharkscope which records the number of games you played) - this will give you an accurate figure rather than a prediction.

In my experience trying to predict an hrly rate and then predict a weekly / monthly / yearly income based on volume of play leads to inaccuracy. The variance in poker means that for the vast majority of us we will experience ups and downs which will massively effect income year on year.

Having said that predicting volume of games played in a day for rakeback calculations is a lot more reliable but do bear in mind that when you sit down to play it takes X amount of time to load 18 games, then when you come to finishing your session its not like all 18 finish at the same time so these the first and last hr of the session wont be the same as the other hours.

[Lee.H]

Where is a decent place to play DoN's theese days? Really just looking for usable software and decent traffic at the micros

[Sean Rafael]

Greatest resource to master STTs? Shoving ranges, ICM, etc.

[couchpotato0]

Noob question... what is the maximum # of tables u can play for turbo sng's?...i know its 24 for cash games, but i coulda sworn i see 30 or more for people playing SNG's?

[ThePressure]

whats the best training website for 6max and 9man hyper turbos?

[minibiff]

So what site is the best to start playing micro SNGs ?

[DMouse]

What is the average length of an 18 man turbo on stars?

[dbcoop]

Originally Posted by DMouse

What is the average length of an 18 man turbo on stars?

I guess U can check it on stars yourself?

[TaylorSeriesExpans]

I am primarily a cash game player, any advice on the 6 max hypers on Stars? Are these games soft? I am looking for a game with almost no post flop play, would this be a right place? Typical ROI for a winner?

[Monkey Banana]

Originally Posted by Sean Rafael

Greatest resource to master STTs? Shoving ranges, ICM, etc.

SNG Wizard: sngwiz.com is still the best afaik.

Originally Posted by couchpotato0

Noob question... what is the maximum # of tables u can play for turbo sng's?...i know its 24 for cash games, but i coulda sworn i see 30 or more for people playing SNG's?

As many as you can handle on Stars.

Originally Posted by TaylorSeriesExpans

I am primarily a cash game player, any advice on the 6 max hypers on Stars? Are these games soft? I am looking for a game with almost no post flop play, would this be a right place? Typical ROI for a winner?

They are attractive to regs and rake whores, so probably less soft than games that aren't. You wouldn't expect much postflop play. ROIs are going to depend on buyin level/how good you are/whether you play fewer tables or more/etc. You possibly don't have the right skillset if you specialise in cash. You'd need to learn ICM pretty thoroughly afaik.

[noobis]

Hi guys,i want a stat on poket tracker to show me how often player donks to flop when pot NOT raised pre.