Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Tournament Poker > STT Strategy

Notices

STT Strategy Discussion about the play of single table tournaments.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-15-2010, 10:08 AM   #121
centurion
 
dennisdmenace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 139
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

oh thanks!
Just gonna grind out a couple more games then =)
dennisdmenace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 01:31 PM   #122
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
NJD77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Round New Chances Everyone
Posts: 8,220
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by InNOut View Post
looking at the leaks in tourney reports in hem, useful or not for assessing where/how I'm losing chips?
There are much better places to look for leaks than hem reports. I'd say they are a last resort. They are much more applicable to cash game play. They'll only tell you the symptoms rather than the root causes. You'll also need mammoth samples before they are going to have any statistical relevance.

The best way to look for leaks is generally in sng wiz, and then pull out hands you are not sure about and post them here.

Another great way to find leaks is to make a video and post it in the Official STTF Video Thread, and hopefully you'll get some kind good regs disect your vid for you. Vers did this for me a few years back and it really helped.
NJD77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 02:51 PM   #123
newbie
 
InNOut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 18
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Thanks a bunch, njd77. I'll look into those. I should start the sngwiz trial prob. is it difficult to use?
InNOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 03:16 PM   #124
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
TruFloridaGator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 22,780
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Welcome to the forum, posting rules still apply(don't post results) & you can leave out the F, T, and R when it's unnecessary. Please read the OP(original post) & read the FAQ at the top of the forum.

You have SNGWiz on Chip Equity mode, change that.
TruFloridaGator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 03:36 PM   #125
journeyman
 
DIrTystack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 231
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Hi, i've been browsing the 'results' threads to see who's making what. Alot of people have stats like ' won $800, and $200 in bonuses and fpp's and stellar rewards'

i'm currently playing $3's on PS and wondering in order to qualify for fpp bonuses and stellar rewards etc do I have to sign up to anything or click anything or do anything, or how are these redeemable. thanks.
DIrTystack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 03:46 PM   #126
journeyman
 
DIrTystack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 231
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

and another one.

i see alot of people have made money from super turbo's and hyper turbos?!?

i cant find these on stars!? are they on FTP?

where are they? what levels are they at? and how turbo is SUPER and HYPER?
DIrTystack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 05:11 PM   #127
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
NJD77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Round New Chances Everyone
Posts: 8,220
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by InNOut View Post
Thanks a bunch, njd77. I'll look into those. I should start the sngwiz trial prob. is it difficult to use?
It's not difficult to use, but it is easy to use it incorrectly! If that makes sense.

Do NOT dive into SNG wiz without first going through all the tutorials and understanding about adjusting villains calling ranges, otherwise you will cost yourself a lot of money.

One thing I would say is that if you are in any way serious about making money from sngs, then you simply have to have sng wiz - it is a bargain.
NJD77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 05:13 PM   #128
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
NJD77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Round New Chances Everyone
Posts: 8,220
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by DIrTystack View Post
Hi, i've been browsing the 'results' threads to see who's making what. Alot of people have stats like ' won $800, and $200 in bonuses and fpp's and stellar rewards'

i'm currently playing $3's on PS and wondering in order to qualify for fpp bonuses and stellar rewards etc do I have to sign up to anything or click anything or do anything, or how are these redeemable. thanks.
No need to sign up to anything, you get them automatically. Stellar rewards will be credited direct to your account in cash, and FPPs can be used to purchase things from the VIP store, some of which are cash bonuses. From time to time Stars run other bonus schemes such as reload bonuses etc. which are redeemed as cash direct to your account based on how many VPPs you accrue in a given time period.
NJD77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 10:21 PM   #129
adept
 
JHolsinger88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,192
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Was wondering if I could be told my average hourly rate by someone, or given the formula. Preferably told (Brain hurts from 2 outers).

8 tabling $11 9 man's - 15% ROI all time ($2 - $30 Buy in)

I play in sets so assuming 8 take an hr, usually a little longer, but I fig this could be rounded.

I fig some of you math wiz's could help me out with this, TY.
JHolsinger88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 10:53 PM   #130
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Monkey Banana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Proud supporter of Ms POG 2013
Posts: 23,361
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Let's assume you run at 15% for $11s and each take an hour. Your hourly is:

.15 x 11 x 8 ($13.20 an hour--congrats on your heater )

Basically, it's ROI x buyin x amount of STTs per hour. You should figure it for each buyin level, because averages can be very misleading.
Monkey Banana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2010, 04:56 AM   #131
adept
 
sloove's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: mincashing all day long
Posts: 730
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJD77 View Post
It's not difficult to use, but it is easy to use it incorrectly! If that makes sense.

Do NOT dive into SNG wiz without first going through all the tutorials and understanding about adjusting villains calling ranges, otherwise you will cost yourself a lot of money.
which one are you referring to exactly?
sloove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2010, 05:06 AM   #132
adept
 
JHolsinger88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,192
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Banana View Post
Let's assume you run at 15% for $11s and each take an hour. Your hourly is:

.15 x 11 x 8 ($13.20 an hour--congrats on your heater )

Basically, it's ROI x buyin x amount of STTs per hour. You should figure it for each buyin level, because averages can be very misleading.
TY I very much appreciate it.

So I was messing around with numbers and to reach the same hourly at the $5.50's you would need a 20% ROI and 12 table. Wondering which route to take as I 12 tabled tonight and I really didn't notice that much of a difference between 8 and 12. But I do know that the players at the $5.50 level are generally awful and a 20% ROI is very realistic for a solid reg.

12 the $5.50's or 8 the $11's?

If only I knew I could hit 20% at the $11 level
JHolsinger88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2010, 09:36 AM   #133
veteran
 
sheeprustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Staking
Posts: 2,910
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Monkey banana thanks for the straight forward ICM explanation. I got bogged down by terminology I think.
You say the move is -Ev in dollars. But is it not a no-brainer to try and elimate the short stack when we are getting close to favourable odds?

Last edited by sheeprustler; 04-16-2010 at 09:51 AM.
sheeprustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2010, 11:07 AM   #134
journeyman
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Earth
Posts: 277
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Banana View Post
No offence, but you probably have a lot bigger flaws than you think. That's one of the first lessons in poker: most of us are much worse than we think we are.

Begin by playing four tables tiled so you can watch the action. You'll improve more for it. There's no reason to stack five at all.

Quote:
You must play AK preflop early. If you get two callers on a bad flop or three on just about any flop that you miss, just give up. No one is observing your play btw, so it doesn't matter how "fishy" you look.

Quote:
Don't limp AK.

Start raising AK again. Post examples of hands where you felt lost after the flop.

Your stats are appropriately nitty, but I'd expect to see something like 8/5. You are probably raising small pairs a bit too often.



On the whole this isn't unreasonable.



Dude, nothing is exploitable unless someone can exploit it.



You won't lose much if you checkfold underpairs to an ace on an A high board against three callers. When out of position, checking and seeing what happens is fine.

Make sure though that if you feel you get called a lot by Ax, you raise AK! Do you see? Those same guys will hand you their stacks on A high boards. But they can't do that if you've folded AK preflop

Again, post examples of hands where you had this happen.



There is a lot to learn!
Thank you very much for take the time to comment. Much appreciated.
Gato_Vago is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2010, 05:45 PM   #135
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Monkey Banana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Proud supporter of Ms POG 2013
Posts: 23,361
Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Quote:
Originally Posted by JHolsinger88 View Post
TY I very much appreciate it.

So I was messing around with numbers and to reach the same hourly at the $5.50's you would need a 20% ROI and 12 table. Wondering which route to take as I 12 tabled tonight and I really didn't notice that much of a difference between 8 and 12. But I do know that the players at the $5.50 level are generally awful and a 20% ROI is very realistic for a solid reg.

12 the $5.50's or 8 the $11's?

If only I knew I could hit 20% at the $11 level
Both targets seem somewhat unrealistic to me but obviously not completely impossible. I'd use lower figures because surprise feels much better than disappointment.


Quote:
Originally Posted by sheeprustler View Post
Monkey banana thanks for the straight forward ICM explanation. I got bogged down by terminology I think.
You say the move is -Ev in dollars. But is it not a no-brainer to try and elimate the short stack when we are getting close to favourable odds?
If you use a program like SNG Wiz, its calculation includes the value of knocking out the shorty. In general, unless the player we're knocking out is very good, we don't need to concern ourselves with doing it. This is one of the many mistakes our opponents make and we can easily avoid.
Monkey Banana is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive