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06-25-2012 , 07:57 PM
I just don't do alot of openraising below 15bb. But i must admit, you are right that you get action from hands you otherwise wouldn't. So maybe im going to implement that move in my arsenal as well.

I just can't see how openshoving 12 bigs otb is insane. Maybe im playing too many mtts/mttsngs lately. Honestly i think its a matter of personal preference. All good now?
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06-25-2012 , 08:11 PM
I raise way more than I shoved with 11-15bb and think it's a sizeable leak to be open shoving a lot of the hands you probably do on the BTN/CO

I don't think it's insane at all and I do it regularly, just a firm believer that raise/decide (or ninjalimp) is better in a lot of spots.

Btw if you talking balance in a spot like 180m folds to us btn 12bb blinds both regs, sure just go ahead and shove your range. With 1 or more randoms behind and are 12-13+ deep I think raise or limp is usually the better play, unless we have 22 or some **** postflop hand
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06-26-2012 , 04:20 AM
next one, 15$ 18m ITM 4handed, opener is 30/16 or something, donked himself to the chip lead, he will have a r/f range for sure

what kind of hands would you re-shove here?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13339882

CO: 2,385 (4 bb)
BTN: 10,702 (17.8 bb)
Hero (SB): 6,144 (10.2 bb)
BB: 7,769 (12.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
CO folds, BTN raises to 1,200, Hero raises to 6,094 and is all-in
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06-26-2012 , 12:20 PM
Not much else to do with TT imo. I prob shove AJo/ATs/88+ or something like that. Really nitty range would be AJs/AQo/99+. If he has been more passive we can maybe consider the second range, but thats about as tight as I can go here.
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06-27-2012 , 10:53 AM
15$ 18m, first table, wiz says push pretty much ATC, but how wide can we push here in reality? blinds are std tags


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13353192

Hero (BTN): 2,240 (11.2 bb)
SB: 2,765 (13.8 bb)
BB: 4,089 (20.4 bb)
CO: 1,828 (9.1 bb)
: 2,913 (14.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 Q

Last edited by Haarlem91; 06-27-2012 at 10:53 AM. Reason: and thx in advance
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06-27-2012 , 12:00 PM
15$ 18m

Any idea's for a nice shoving range here? also note blinds are about to pass us

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13353322

MP3: 7,162 (17.9 bb)
CO: 1,599 (4 bb)
BTN: 2,024 (5.1 bb)
SB: 1,485 (3.7 bb)
BB: 2,025 (5.1 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 2,800 (7 bb)
MP1: 7,471 (18.7 bb)
MP2: 2,434 (6.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 8 T
Hero
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06-28-2012 , 10:19 AM
15$ 18m bubble spot. blinds are randoms, nothing crazy, being the shorty..how wide are you shoving?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13360432

CO: 2,894 (4.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,632 (4.4 bb)
SB: 7,653 (12.8 bb)
BB: 4,515 (7.5 bb)
MP: 9,306 (15.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with
2 folds, Hero raises to 2,582 and is all-in,
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06-28-2012 , 10:21 AM
15$ 18m bubble spot. villain is a reg, his raise/call is std, how wide are you calling him? he will be shoving wide since hes the shortest and about to blind out.


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13360452

MP: 2,115 (3.5 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,355 (5.6 bb)
BTN: 8,715 (14.5 bb)
SB: 5,375 (9 bb)
BB: 7,440 (12.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with
MP raises to 1,800, Hero raises to 3,305 and is all-in, 3 folds, MP calls 265 and is all-in
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06-28-2012 , 12:20 PM
Don't post more than 2 hands per day would be my advice. Its just not productive and won't get the critical view needed. Rather spend some time selecting the most interesting/difficult spots.

1. hand (chronologically)

every PP, Ax, Kx, Q8o, Q6s, J9o, J8s, T9o, T7s, 98s

2. hand

for sure im shoving T8s, around 50%-60%

3. hand

around 40-50%, not superwide since its the bubble we don't have that much fold-equity and we can still see 2 hands

4. hand

hmmm, difficult. Don't know what standard means for you. If i put him on 50% shove at this point im going to call about 40% of hands i think.

disclaimer: i don't use wiz on a regular basis and i would like to hear different opinions
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06-28-2012 , 03:24 PM
Hmmm, not sure about the first hand. Thought there were already antes.
5% less hands or so without antes, i guess. Interested what calling range for the blinds you did assign in order to get ATC.
Also your range depends heavily on what your perceived shove range may be and what the table dynamics are. If both players perceive you as a nit, you may get away with ATC.

Last edited by siebenacht; 06-28-2012 at 03:29 PM.
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06-28-2012 , 07:25 PM
Was I the only one who experienced lagging/delaying issues with Pokerstars Software in 2:23 EET?
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06-29-2012 , 12:07 AM
siebenacht 4 mod!
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06-29-2012 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Hmmm, not sure about the first hand. Thought there were already antes.
5% less hands or so without antes, i guess. Interested what calling range for the blinds you did assign in order to get ATC.
Also your range depends heavily on what your perceived shove range may be and what the table dynamics are. If both players perceive you as a nit, you may get away with ATC.
got like 98%, calling ranges of 15-17%, nothing special

thanks for the input
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07-01-2012 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
15$ 18m, first table, wiz says push pretty much ATC, but how wide can we push here in reality? blinds are std tags

Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players

Hero (BTN): 2,240 (11.2 bb)
SB: 2,765 (13.8 bb)
BB: 4,089 (20.4 bb)
CO: 1,828 (9.1 bb)
: 2,913 (14.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 Q
Not shoving, I'd rf vs nits or just open fold vs regs who know me.



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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
15$ 18m

Any idea's for a nice shoving range here? also note blinds are about to pass us

Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players

MP3: 7,162 (17.9 bb)
CO: 1,599 (4 bb)
BTN: 2,024 (5.1 bb)
SB: 1,485 (3.7 bb)
BB: 2,025 (5.1 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 2,800 (7 bb)
MP1: 7,471 (18.7 bb)
MP2: 2,434 (6.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 8 T
Hero
Probably my bottom.




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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
15$ 18m bubble spot. blinds are randoms, nothing crazy, being the shorty..how wide are you shoving?

Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players

CO: 2,894 (4.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,632 (4.4 bb)
SB: 7,653 (12.8 bb)
BB: 4,515 (7.5 bb)
MP: 9,306 (15.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with
2 folds, Hero raises to 2,582 and is all-in,
Roughly 40-50%, defo wider than wiz likes anyway.



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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
15$ 18m bubble spot. villain is a reg, his raise/call is std, how wide are you calling him? he will be shoving wide since hes the shortest and about to blind out.

Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players

MP: 2,115 (3.5 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,355 (5.6 bb)
BTN: 8,715 (14.5 bb)
SB: 5,375 (9 bb)
BB: 7,440 (12.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with
MP raises to 1,800, Hero raises to 3,305 and is all-in, 3 folds, MP calls 265 and is all-in
Again wider than wiz, probably 55,QJs,A9o, reg dependent though.
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07-02-2012 , 12:18 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $300(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,907)
BB ($4,080)
CO ($2,901)
Hero ($2,612)

Dealt to Hero K 6

fold, Hero raises to $2,587 (AI)


Will you push here any suited king?Which is a standar range?Both opponents are normal

Bubble of 9 man
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07-04-2012 , 07:44 PM
Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
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khayredinov (SB): t3094 15.47 BBs
Snayps (BB): t1650 8.25 BBs
Wotermen (UTG): t4125 20.62 BBs
farcraf (CO): t2686 13.43 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1945 9.72 BBs


Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with Qc As
Wotermen raises to t500, 1 fold,
Hero??


sorry, i just Ctrl c + Ctrl v from other forum tha i've posted... anyway sngwizz says to fold what u guys would do??
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07-06-2012 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WeeDan121
Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
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khayredinov (SB): t3094 15.47 BBs
Snayps (BB): t1650 8.25 BBs
Wotermen (UTG): t4125 20.62 BBs
farcraf (CO): t2686 13.43 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1945 9.72 BBs


Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with Qc As
Wotermen raises to t500, 1 fold,
Hero??
I'm new to this stuff so I would be interested to see other people's opinions.

If Wotermen is a tight, solid player then I would probably fold. If he is a fish and you know he is raising a lot there with bad hands then you could shove, but I think folding is probably the best play here overall.
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07-06-2012 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grindtolive
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $300(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,907)
BB ($4,080)
CO ($2,901)
Hero ($2,612)

Dealt to Hero K 6

fold, Hero raises to $2,587 (AI)


Will you push here any suited king?Which is a standar range?Both opponents are normal

Bubble of 9 man
Don't like to give out a range here, but we are last in chips have less then 10 bigs and a way above average hand. I think i would be shoving any suited K. Im assuming they don't perceive your shoving range beeing superwide of course.

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Originally Posted by WeeDan121
Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter


khayredinov (SB): t3094 15.47 BBs
Snayps (BB): t1650 8.25 BBs
Wotermen (UTG): t4125 20.62 BBs
farcraf (CO): t2686 13.43 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1945 9.72 BBs


Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with Qc As
Wotermen raises to t500, 1 fold,
Hero??


sorry, i just Ctrl c + Ctrl v from other forum tha i've posted... anyway sngwizz says to fold what u guys would do??
Readless easy shove. Sngwiz cant speak. Its just a calculator and i bet you have wotermen on either a ridiculous tight raising range or a ridic wide calling range to get a fold there.

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Originally Posted by TWhelan
I'm new to this stuff so I would be interested to see other people's opinions.

If Wotermen is a tight, solid player then I would probably fold. If he is an aggro player and you know he is raising a lot there with bad hands then you could shove, but I think folding is probably the best play here overall.
Fishes have oftentimes even tighter raising ranges than solid players, since they play most marginal hands passively.

Last edited by siebenacht; 07-06-2012 at 05:50 AM.
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07-06-2012 , 07:57 AM
Is there a matrix or chart somewhere of hand ranges vs other ranges somewhere? For instance, like this, with your hand in the rows and villian's hand in the columns
1 2 3 4
1 % equity
2
3
4
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07-06-2012 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Don't like to give out a range here, but we are last in chips have less then 10 bigs and a way above average hand. I think i would be shoving any suited K. Im assuming they don't perceive your shoving range beeing superwide of course.

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This was my thought.Dont like to give out a range because there is no stadar range in bubble spots or you dont want to?
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07-06-2012 , 09:51 PM
Nash ranges are kind of standard ranges for me. I think a good starting point is holdemressourcesDOTcom. Play around with their icm calculator and try to memorize/guesstimate in game then. If villain deviates from nash i try to figure out how i have to deviate myself from nash.
For example if they call too tight, im shoving wider than nash. If they call too loose i shove less than nash or if they call pretty optimally im just shoving nash. I like working that way more than putting each hand into wiz and giving villains a range.
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07-07-2012 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Nash ranges are kind of standard ranges for me. I think a good starting point is holdemressourcesDOTcom. Play around with their icm calculator and try to memorize/guesstimate in game then. If villain deviates from nash i try to figure out how i have to deviate myself from nash.
For example if they call too tight, im shoving wider than nash. If they call too loose i shove less than nash or if they call pretty optimally im just shoving nash. I like working that way more than putting each hand into wiz and giving villains a range.
Yes ofc but i think Nash is extremely wide in bubble because i dont think there is one villain that he will fold 99 from a BU push unless it is a rare setup stack
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07-07-2012 , 01:09 PM
You don't need to quote me if your reply is the next post. Nash-shove-ranges are unexploitable (also at the bubble), even though they are not optimal in alot of cases. Im talking about deviating from nash-shoving-ranges accordingly how my opponents call. No offense, but your english is hardly understandable. Not sure what you are talking about.
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07-08-2012 , 08:26 PM
Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 4 players - View hand 1816263
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BTN: t3215 M = 5.85
Hero (SB): t3100 M = 5.64
BB: t5075 M = 9.23
CO: t2110 M = 3.84

Pre Flop: (t550) Hero is SB with K A
CO raises to t2085 all in, 1 fold,

Hero ??

I had no notes or stats about the player, but I knew that he's not a reg
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