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Old 04-07-2010, 08:42 PM   #61
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Re: Can a case be made for the Villian to fold??

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...3 players seeing the flop per hand with a maniac and a loose aggressive player is not a tight table

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Ordinarily I would be inclined to agree however it was fairly early in the tournament and they were not involved in every hand. In fact my assessment was made more on the cards they showed and what they had done with them rather than the number of hands they played.

Regarding KQ preflop. Again I tend to agree with you and would normally not get involved but the blinds were still very low and that I intended to check-fold had I not hit the flop hard.

I will definately give some thought to your comments but I am trying to look at the hand from both sides hence asking for opinions on whether the Villian was right to call.
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Old 04-07-2010, 11:07 PM   #62
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Re: Can a case be made for the Villian to fold??

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Ordinarily I would be inclined to agree however it was fairly early in the tournament and they were not involved in every hand. In fact my assessment was made more on the cards they showed and what they had done with them rather than the number of hands they played.

Regarding KQ preflop. Again I tend to agree with you and would normally not get involved but the blinds were still very low and that I intended to check-fold had I not hit the flop hard.

I will definately give some thought to your comments but I am trying to look at the hand from both sides hence asking for opinions on whether the Villian was right to call.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:25 AM   #63
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'Interesting' Wiz hand

Posting this one here as I guess for most people it might be obvious, but it's kind of intrigued me.

In my mind I'd exclude AA and probably KK from his range here as it would be such an odd thing to do with them, and that just about makes it a call with my JJ (according to the range I assign him in Wiz). He'd been playing pretty tight and I think this was his first shove Was I wrong to exclude those mentally at this stage? I've included the result as it shows I clearly was!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 25 Ante (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG (t6400)
Hero (Button) (t1545)
SB (t2520)
BB (t3035)

Hero's M: 3.86

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
UTG bets t6375 (All-In), Hero calls t1520 (All-In), 2 folds

Flop: (t3440) 7, 6, 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3440) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3440) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3440

Results:
Hero had J, J (two pair, Jacks and nines).
UTG had A, A (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: UTG won t3440

Thoughts appreciated
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:06 AM   #64
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Re: 'Interesting' Wiz hand

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Posting this one here as I guess for most people it might be obvious, but it's kind of intrigued me.

In my mind I'd exclude AA and probably KK from his range here as it would be such an odd thing to do with them, and that just about makes it a call with my JJ (according to the range I assign him in Wiz). He'd been playing pretty tight and I think this was his first shove Was I wrong to exclude those mentally at this stage? I've included the result as it shows I clearly was!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 25 Ante (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG (t6400)
Hero (Button) (t1545)
SB (t2520)
BB (t3035)

Hero's M: 3.86

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
UTG bets t6375 (All-In), Hero calls t1520 (All-In), 2 folds

Flop: (t3440) 7, 6, 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3440) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3440) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3440

Results:
Hero had J, J (two pair, Jacks and nines).
UTG had A, A (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: UTG won t3440

Thoughts appreciated
well, some regulars (when in presence of other regulars mostly) will try to play AA/KK exactly the same as any other shovable hand. in this example, eff stacks are 15bb, so theres no room for other play than shoving. wp by villain
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #65
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HU - when is all in with any hand games through the different variants?

Whats happening forum.

How dominant do you have to be before the all in with any hand mantra kicks in?

Is it different in the different games? I think I read somewhere it is 10 x the oppositions stack in nlh, but I wouldn't raise a guy all in with any 3 cards in razz when my door card is a king.

A starting point I completely made up - is it far off? Maybe it's just 10:1 in all games and I'm overanalysing.

Stack percentages allowing an all in with any hand HU

Deuce-Seven Triple Draw - 16:1 only with at least one card to a seven
Limit Holdem - 10:1
O8 - 6:1
Razz - 4:1 only with a smaller door card
Stud - 8:1
S8 - 8:1
PLO - 16:1
NLH - 10:1

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Old 04-08-2010, 04:09 PM   #66
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How big a 450 DoN db is?

Guys, I`m sorry for this not so good question, but after 450 DoNs w/ 10.7% ROI can I assume I`m a long term winner? (I mean after 10k tournaments?)

And am I right to assume I`m in a downswing if I play 195 tournaments having a 1.6% ROI after getting 10.7% in 450? Or should I understand that my actual ROI is not that good and it`s moving to the real number? IMO this is the real situation, could someone help me please?

Thank you in advance
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:22 PM   #67
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Re: How big a 450 DoN db is?

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Guys, I`m sorry for this not so good question, but after 450 DoNs w/ 10.7% ROI can I assume I`m a long term winner? (I mean after 10k tournaments?)

And am I right to assume I`m in a downswing if I play 195 tournaments having a 1.6% ROI after getting 10.7% in 450? Or should I understand that my actual ROI is not that good and it`s moving to the real number? IMO this is the real situation, could someone help me please?

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Old 04-09-2010, 12:55 AM   #68
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Do you think it's +EV to show your vip status for SS DoNs?

while having a VIP status > bronze doesn't necessarily mean you are a good player, i definitely feel that it shows you are at least somewhat competent. I wanted to get some opinions on whether or not you think it's a good idea to show your VIP status (silverstar+) for small stakes DONs.

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Old 04-09-2010, 01:03 AM   #69
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Re: Do you think it's +EV to show your vip status for SS DoNs?

I would think it's slightly +EV to have your Goldstar+ flashing. People will probably respect your raises a bit more in the earlier stage of the DON.

This depends alot from the different experience the different fish have with people showing stars.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:53 AM   #70
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Re: Do you think it's +EV to show your vip status for SS DoNs?

I've experimented with a 2K sample with both, could be variance, but i had a better result in the 2k Sample with it showing.
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:19 AM   #71
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Re: Determining player types and sharkscope

some ppl get this data during play.

i don't know if that is okay with the terms and conditions...

during the break or after a game is the easiest and i'm pretty sure ok.
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:08 AM   #72
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Re: Determining player types and sharkscope

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some ppl get this data during play.

i don't know if that is okay with the terms and conditions...

during the break or after a game is the easiest and i'm pretty sure ok.
this is def. true with FTP

i take notes based on play in-game, i just type out in something like "Notepad" on my comp ppl HEM says ive been gathering a decent amount of hands on, i sharkscope their filtered stats after a session, then copy n paste their notes in
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Old 04-09-2010, 08:43 AM   #73
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Worth beginning a SNG career on FTP or Stars?

I've played various forms of poker and decided that sngs are the game for me. I currently play low stakes on micro gaming and have an ROI of 24%. I'm confident I will move up if I stick to sngs only. However, micro gaming skins suck for multi tabling, and the network sucks for getting constant and several games at any time.

I'm thinking of moving to FTP or Stars cos it's easier to multi-table, you can always get tons of games on the go, and the stakes go higher than any other network.

I'm wondering though, is there any point? The quality and number of regs seems much higher than other networks. Are they becoming swamped with so swamped that I'd be better just staying where I am?
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Old 04-09-2010, 08:46 AM   #74
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Re: Worth beginning a SNG career on FTP or Stars?

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Old 04-09-2010, 08:55 AM   #75
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Re: Worth beginning a SNG career on FTP or Stars?

You might want to take a look at this thread : http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...e-sngs-745340/

He suggests Full Tilt if you don't intend to become Supernova, but Poker Stars if you plan of playing a very high volume of games. I'm gonna start grinding very soon on PS, PM me if you are serious and want a "MSN poker buddy" lol.
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