I just started playing 6max sit and go's instead of cash for a change, $6 and $12 what sort of sample size do you usually look at to determine a winning player/work out rough roi estimate?

thanks

I would say 500-1000 is enough games to determine if you are a winning player usually. But winning players can easily go on 1000+ game downswings. If you want a rough roi estimate you will need to play thousands of games. The best thing to do is just try to improve, play as your bankroll allow, and try not to worry about swings or what your roi is.

Twisted nailed it. Low stakes 6m is quite juicy still, 1000 games should tell you if you're a winner imo Like twisted said tho you could also run very hot/cold over such a sample

Do no worry about roi, finish distribution and such non sense. Focus on improving and always making the best decision and those things will follow

1.

Is raise/folding to a shove the best line here?

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120.00/t240.00 Blinds - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos
____________________VPIP/PFR
SB: t1830.00 7.62 BBs [32/5]
BB: t1055.00 4.40 BBs [12/9]
Hero (UTG): t2930.00 12.21 BBs
MP: t3035.00 12.65 BBs [28/16]
CO: t1930.00 8.04 BBs [26/16]
BTN: t2720.00 11.33 BBs [17/13]

Pre Flop: (t360) Hero is UTG with T A
Hero raises to t540, 5 folds


2.
Should I push flop?

Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.20 Madness (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 7 players
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CO: t1390 17.38 BBs
BTN: t1546 19.32 BBs
SB: t2125 26.56 BBs
BB: t1447 18.09 BBs
Hero (UTG): t1360 17 BBs
UTG+1: t3252 40.65 BBs
MP: t2380 29.75 BBs [VPIP: 52/PFR: 24]

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to t240, 1 fold, MP calls t240, 4 folds

Flop: (t600) 9 Q 3 (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets t320, MP raises to t640, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to t1120 all in

Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 4 players - View hand 1014829
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Hero (CO): t1900 3.80 BBs
BTN: t5890 11.78 BBs
SB: t2450 4.90 BBs
BB: t3260 6.52 BBs

Pre Flop: (t750) Hero is CO with 7 7
Hero raises to t1900 all in, 3 folds


wiz says fold 77, shove 99+ here and we have to take BB next hand. really fold?

Not in a million years im folding this. Wiz can gtfo here! I assume you did adjust ranges. I get it in so fast here.

1) Really akward stacksize to begin raising with, so im folding pre.

2) Im checking flop and se what happens. Btw, you should start only raising 2.5x when blinds gets to this point. So 200 will do!

Thanks mckrogh.

Here's BvB spot.I'm not quite sure if it's worth calling on flop without a certain read with not that much info.
SB 24/7, over 36 hands.
Steal is 14% but probably we shouldn't make any conclusions with such a small sample

Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: t2680 33.50 BBs
BTN: t1545 19.31 BBs
SB: t3910 48.88 BBs
Hero (BB): t2500 31.25 BBs
UTG: t1410 17.62 BBs
UTG+1: t495 6.19 BBs
MP: t960 12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is BB with K T
5 folds, SB raises to t160, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t320) 6 9 6 (2 players)
SB bets t160, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls t160

Turn: (t640) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t280, SB folds

Guys... whats this STTF thread?

i didnt change anything and i opened the hand again now. all opponents set to average here. definately weird

im having another hand from wiz, this time from the quiz

blinds 100/200
btn: 2000
sb: 10500
hero bb: 1000

btn fold, sb push, hero Q3o.

now wiz was saying sb would push around 59%. when i stove this 59% range vs Q3o its a 40/60 for him. given that im allready itm and given that i loose a folding war anyway isnt that a call?

im also looking for pot odds that are pretty good for me. 2.5:1 means i should be winning 28% of the time to make the call right?

I didn't want to start a thread to ask this question, since I realize the topic has been debated quite a bit, but it's still bothering me.

Experience indicates that the vast majority of 2+2 STT posters play at normal speed, and also that most of the best regs across all sites do so as well. It seems to me, however, that there are many advantages and few drawbacks to playing turbo.

Granted, ROI is certainly going to be slightly lower with all other things being equal, but is this not more than compensated for by volume? Also, as alluded to above, turbos at a certain level seem softer than their normal equivalents. Finally, the rake is lower (on FTP at least). It seems like a no-brainer to me. What am I missing?

None of the above is correct.

Everyone plays turbos for the reasons you've stated. There are a few good posters in the STTF who do play Reg speed but the vast majority play Turbo.

Thanks, good to hear that I'm not an idiot (with respect to the normal/turbo decision, anyway). I realize now that hh converters don't seem to specify turbo, which explains my misapprehension with respect to posters.

The reg aspect of the claim was based on playing $10/$11 and $20/$22 SNGs on Full Tilt, where there do seem to be more solid regs playing normal than turbo, but that is an admittedly circumstantial observation.

PS STEP 1

PokerStars - $7+$0.50|150/300 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 7,315.00
BTN: 3,655.00
SB: 935.00
Hero (BB): 1,595.00

UTG posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 150.00, Hero posts BB 300.00

Pre Flop: (550.00) Hero has 9 9

UTG raises to 600.00, fold, fold, Hero

This was a tough spot for me because the player to my immediate right (the sb here) was short stacked also - and I got into a results oriented inner-fuss because I would've felt stupid shoving here and loosing on the bubble when the smaller stack to my right was under even more pressure than I. I immediately thought: "well I can fold and the smaller stack will get it in and loose and I'll be home free"... <=== I think this is stinkin' thinkin' ....

Also - utg - was a loose canon - 41/31/4 over the length of the tourney. That said - is this an insta shove despite the "bubble" conditions here? thanks for the FB.

EDIT: I am new to STT, and I'm doing the steps because I'm in LA for the week and I'd like to play the NAPT on Friday - so I have lots of FPP from LHE play so I thought I'd take a "shot" - so you'll all see me posting a lot of stupid noob STT steps questions over the week likely - I'll try and reply to the other posts to put in my time (the micro LHE forum is big on this where I frequent) but I probably won't be able to give any intelligent answers lol - I thought I'd give you the heads up thanks everyone!

ALso (hope this isn't tl;dr) I am playing ONLY step 1s today. I managed to get seven step 2 tickets today (yay) and I'll play those in bulk although I probably won't multi-table like I am doing with the step ones today ... anyway - fyi - thats my "plan" thx again.

I'm not.

huh, please explain why MB? I mean, arent we to deep to shove? And its not like we are going to raise/call any others than bb right?

Would you raise/fold here so? Minraise?

When your are using wiz, make sure to adjust the ranges manually yourself. Else you get the wrong answers.

Like the thread title says:

Official beginner/basic question.

Hello! Is this a stupid shove? Table was bit tight / passive...i thought...

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120/t240 Blinds - 5 players
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BTN: t3410 14.21 BBs
SB: t1840 7.67 BBs
BB: t2510 10.46 BBs
UTG: t3360 14 BBs
Hero (CO): t2380 9.92 BBs

Pre Flop: (t360) Hero is CO with T A
UTG calls t240, Hero raises to t2380 all in, 3 folds, UTG calls t2140

Flop: (t5120) T 4 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t5120) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t5120) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

No No. I mean the STTF thread. Not this one.

I imagine sttf is single table tourney forum.

What is the received wisdom with respect to filtering short-handed stats?

Specifically, at what point should I initiate filtering - I'm thinking six-handed, is that reasonable? My notion was to filter 2 - 6-handed play to show only 2 - 6-handed stats, since push-fold generally starts around that point.

I raise because I like to win the blinds and if someone calls (not everyone just shoves), I can still often take it down. I'm not folding strong hands just because I can't shove them.

There's no real consensus here. Some people filter stats a ton, some don't. I think it depends a lot on what you have on your HUD. Also, I think in HEM there's a tourney hud filter that I've never used, but it seems like it allows you to filter by BB level. This would be better for getting stats on people during push/fold.

I always used my HUD as a way to get a general categorization of a player (loose, tight etc.), so I kept my filters pretty wide.

I think that the filter you're thinking of relates to the amount of BBs held by each individual player, so it's only indirectly related to the BB level. In any case, that's the first filter I put in. After thinking about it, though, I realized that I move into push/fold mode based not only on my stack but those of the players behind me. For that reason I was thinking that players remaining would be a better filter, although its admittedly not a perfect indicator. Comments on that reasoning (or the general concept of filtering at all)?