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Old 03-31-2010, 06:36 PM   #26
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Re: what to do with the Pokerstars FPPs?

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how do you profit your FPPs??
The 280fpp super turbos to the Sunday 1/4Mill are good value

or if you have time the 210fpp 20man to the Sunday 1/4 are possibly the best value.
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:54 PM   #27
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Apologies in advance for silly question - but this seemed like possibly the right place for it.

I've just recently started multitabling SNGs and feel that part of my biggest edge loss is in timing tells. Is there any software that could show me, for example, the average time it takes a player to take a decision, and they time they took on this particular hand?

i.e. Let's say I have a note that a player taking longer mostly means weak hand, if I had some software that then showed me they'd taken 5 seconds, instead of their average 1 second, the extra info would help to make my decision - obviously this is tricky when multitabling.
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Old 03-31-2010, 07:17 PM   #28
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

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Apologies in advance for silly question - but this seemed like possibly the right place for it.

I've just recently started multitabling SNGs and feel that part of my biggest edge loss is in timing tells. Is there any software that could show me, for example, the average time it takes a player to take a decision, and they time they took on this particular hand?

i.e. Let's say I have a note that a player taking longer mostly means weak hand, if I had some software that then showed me they'd taken 5 seconds, instead of their average 1 second, the extra info would help to make my decision - obviously this is tricky when multitabling.
well, some of us (and you) can take a while to act for the simple reason of multitabling and sometimes we have action in 4 o 5 at the same time, so i dont think you can count on that. But if you have a read on some players, nice... dont know if such software exist and i'm sure it would be banned at the poker rooms
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:46 AM   #29
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

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Apologies in advance for silly question - but this seemed like possibly the right place for it.

I've just recently started multitabling SNGs and feel that part of my biggest edge loss is in timing tells. Is there any software that could show me, for example, the average time it takes a player to take a decision, and they time they took on this particular hand?

i.e. Let's say I have a note that a player taking longer mostly means weak hand, if I had some software that then showed me they'd taken 5 seconds, instead of their average 1 second, the extra info would help to make my decision - obviously this is tricky when multitabling.

No, it doesn't exist and there are so many variables. Internet connections, site animations, how many tables others are playing and on how many sites, scripts, etc... Just work on your game as you always would and thoroughly evaluate play all around. Experience will generally tell you when the time is right to put a lot of faith into a timing tell online.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:08 AM   #30
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

I notice most play turbo STTs. I find the regular ones to be a lot easier, maybe because at the micros, people don't know what they're doing. Is there a general consensus on this?
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:16 AM   #31
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

yes, ROI at the normal speeds is higher.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:24 AM   #32
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High blind, on bubble, everyone with about 10bb

Hi,

I keep getting into this situation -
4 people remaining,
all about 10 big blinds, very similar stack sizes

either:
it gets folded to the big blind,
or someone goes all in, everyone folds

is it ever worth limping in with decent hands, or is it purely about waiting for any opportunity to shove and hope no good callers/worse callers? it seems so transparent that you have something like jj+/ak when limping in that it is hard to get any calls from further raises.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:12 AM   #33
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

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I notice most play turbo STTs. I find the regular ones to be a lot easier, maybe because at the micros, people don't know what they're doing. Is there a general consensus on this?
in fact, they are. most regs play the turbos for getting more volume. so regular speed have less regs and more unknowns.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:16 AM   #34
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Re: High blind, on bubble, everyone with about 10bb

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Hi,

I keep getting into this situation -
4 people remaining,
all about 10 big blinds, very similar stack sizes

either:
it gets folded to the big blind,
or someone goes all in, everyone folds

is it ever worth limping in with decent hands, or is it purely about waiting for any opportunity to shove and hope no good callers/worse callers? it seems so transparent that you have something like jj+/ak when limping in that it is hard to get any calls from further raises.
it really depends... limping with 10bbs is almost never good, just shove. If you have some good read on BB that hes very aggro and will defend his BB very light against a limper, i guess you could do it. but as a general rule, just shove your premiums as you would do with any other shovable hand
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:30 PM   #35
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Hi

I would like to see - either in this thread or in the FAQ - something like 'a guide to commonly used poker abbrevations' and 'an explanation of the x/x/x kind of terms most contributors are using'

Would be very helpful.
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:34 PM   #36
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I would like to see - either in this thread or in the FAQ - something like 'a guide to commonly used poker abbrevations' and 'an explanation of the x/x/x kind of terms most contributors are using'

Would be very helpful.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...ncement63.html

Check out "19. Defintions of common terms".
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:35 PM   #37
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

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Hi

I would like to see - either in this thread or in the FAQ - something like 'a guide to commonly used poker abbrevations' and 'an explanation of the x/x/x kind of terms most contributors are using'

Would be very helpful.
you will be learning as you read them... or ask them especifically

x/x/x (x) is usually voluntarilly put $ to see a flop/ preflop raise/ agression factor (number of hands recorded)
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:36 PM   #38
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Thanks jurra Obviously, I must have overlooked that one.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:24 PM   #39
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Strategy for getting reads

I think the main part of my game that is seriously lacking is the fact i am clueless when it comes to reads.

If i don't have a hud, the only way i can even vagulery work out if they're tight/loose/passive/agg (unless they are *really* loose/tight etc) is making constant notes (some of the players ive played quite a few sngs against i have paragraphsand paragraphs of notes - when it comes to sitting down on a table with them it takes forever to read (and is mostly useless notes anyway).

i've only been playing for ~6mo, is it something that comes with time or something you really have to work on?
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:09 PM   #40
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

both, work and time improve hand reading, but mostly time. It takes a while...at least it did for me.
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:09 PM   #41
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Re: Strategy for getting reads

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If i don't have a hud
get one?
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:49 PM   #42
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

How much does strategy differentiate between turbos and normals?

How often will you find yourself forced to make an -EV play or shove in turbos?
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:53 PM   #43
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AQ and AJ

This question may be way too general to ask without further detail, but after playing since November in the 6.50-60 range of SNGs, I have come to realize these two hands (usually unsuited) end up costing me the most money.

Can anyone give me some advise on when I should begin to play them? I used to ignore them until around the 150 big blind level and then begin to play them in position. Should I simply stay away from them?
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:27 PM   #44
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Re: AQ and AJ

Costing you money is not a good indicator to make adjustment to your play unless you have a very big sample. How many AQ and AJ do you have in your database? May be you have been unlucky and the hand you play worth is TT (just an exemple)

AJo is not good at low and mid blind level. After it can be a monster.
I think you can play AQo even at the first level in position if you are the first in and in late position and you raise préflop.
You can play AJs as well in late position, better with limper and you play for straight, two pairs or flush. If it is 2 or 3 opponents top pair is probably good also but it depends on reads, opponents and your skill postflop.

As you said it is a general topic. I raise limper sometimes in late position hoping to be HU VS a loose, pasive, predictable opponent. I even prefer to win it right there.

Reply AQ and AJ hands from your database and check if you do mistakes. Calling a raise with AQ even if position is usually not very good, especially if vilain is tight.

To be profitable with AQ you need to win the pot when you don't hit with a continuation bet.

In my opinion there is a lot more stuff to focus on than analysing a specific hand.
How many STT have you played since November? What is your ROI?
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:43 PM   #45
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Re: AQ and AJ

if you are losing money with AQ and AJ up to bb150 you are doing something wrong.

Your question is way too general to give a good answer tho.

If you don't spazz post you should be able to play AQo for a raise or iso profitable from any position. With AJo you can be a bit more selective, ie fold in early position and open in mid position etc.
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Old 04-06-2010, 03:08 AM   #46
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

How do know the difference between playing badly and getting constant bad beats? I played a quick turbo session this morning, on all of the 8 tables I played I got my money in good and was sucked out on all (I put the HHs in pokerluckmeter and it put me in the bottom 0%! with odds of 214:1 on that happening).

However, I'm on quite a big downswing and I realise it can't all be bad luck. Does the fact that I'm almost always getting my money in good mean I'm playing too tight? I've read loads, understand ICM, use Wiz (which usually says I'm doing fine, but could be pushing more in the SB) analyze post game etc... but just keep getting sucked out on. I suppose what I'm asking is how do I manage to assess whether it's just me or constant bad luck?
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:42 AM   #47
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Where to start?

Hey,

Ive started playing again after a bit of a break and deposited 50$ into my PokerStars account. Im very inetrested in playing SNG's in order to build a bankroll.

Even after looking at the ones PokerStars has to offer, I am still confused as to which ones to play to start with? The turbo/ none turbo DoN's, $1.20 9 mans or $1.2 6 mans.

Would playing MTT's be a good idea also? Or whilst my Bankroll is so low should i just stick to one of the above?

Just looking for some advice from you guys as to how you tackled the lower BI SNG's.

Thanks a lot.

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Old 04-06-2010, 06:23 AM   #48
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Re: Where to start?

The FAQ at the top of the forum would be the best place to start.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:02 AM   #49
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Re: Where to start?

I started recently with a similar bankroll and I'm grinding the 18-mans on Stars ($1 atm, moving to $3 shortly). I started out trying to grind the 9-mans but I was pretty break even. The 18-mans are definitely way easier, I have a 40% roi over about 80 games so far (small sample, I know, which is why I'm waiting a bit to move up to the $3s), so if I were you I'd start there, they are super soft.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:31 AM   #50
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Oh ok, becuase i was concidering the DoN's for a while. 18 Man 1$'s. I will deffo go take a look at those. Thanks for the feedback.
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