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03-31-2010, 08:28 AM
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stranger
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Denmark
Posts: 8
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Holdem manager vs. pokertracker vs. sharkscope hud?
Hi guys
I have been playing poker for some years now, and i feel i am rdy to take it to the next lvl, as i have gained experience to play 9 tables og stt sng with 9 players, at the stakes up to 25$ with an average roi above 10%, and now i wanna get more in depth with my stats, to find my leaks and improve my game, to get higher than 25$.
So here comes my question, what program is best for this when i play sngs, i oocasionally aslo play some cash games, shorthanded and hu, but im mostly a sng man. So what program would u recomend for me?
A must is that it can display the apropriate stats(raise/fold percents, their overall profit, and stuff like that) right on the table, so i dont have to look elsewhere.
I hope you can give me some good advide.
Thx
P.S i dont need comments like "pokertracker rocks!", more detailed reviews please
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03-31-2010, 10:53 AM
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#17
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hobnobbing with the STTF
Posts: 1,965
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
Holdem and pokertracker both have trials so your best finding out for yourself.
Both have customisable HUDs and you can display whichever stats you want.
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03-31-2010, 10:55 AM
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#18
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SHEOL
Posts: 8,746
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
Sharkscope HUD is prohibited on most (all?) sites, so it's not worth investing money into something could get you banned.
HEM and PT3 both have trial versions and i'd say you are best of checking them out for at least a week each and then decide which one you like best.
Personally I prefer HEM, partly because I had a bad experience with PT3 (lagged a lot, unstable, etc.), but that was PT3 v3 iirc and they are now at v5, so it might be better now.
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03-31-2010, 12:10 PM
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#19
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adept
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Syracuse
Posts: 1,142
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Re: steps on pokerstars to wsop ME
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Originally Posted by jurrasstoil
JK,
you know that you don't HAVE to play the ME if you qualify through PS? If losing 200-300 bucks doesn't mean a lot to you, lets see how you feel after losing 10k.
And +1 to Dan.
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Yes but the main event's structure is sick nasty. And I feel like its worth a 10k shot at hitting a million dollar score. I mean look at joe cada and jerry yang. Didnt play amazing final tables but got lucky and won. Anyone can win the main event imo but being a halfway decent player improves your chances. Yes I agree tho that 10k is a lot and I would rather play $200-$500 events where I wouldnt be screwed if I didn't cash in 1 tourny.
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03-31-2010, 12:17 PM
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#20
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SHEOL
Posts: 8,746
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
I don't know your usual stakes, so not sure what to think about your statements.
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03-31-2010, 12:36 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Buenos Aires
Posts: 993
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what to do with the Pokerstars FPPs?
Sorry if this have been discussed before, i did some search and no luck
Did you find some more profitable ways to spend the FPPs than the bonuses??
I have played some satellites and unregister from the tourney (ex Sunday 1/4 million 70FPPs, giving 11 tourney $)
i'm grinding the 6.5s (will take some shots at the 16$) so i dont get too many PFFs per week, hopefully i'll end up as a Goldstar next month
what do you recommend? how do you profit your FPPs??
ty guys
plz dont recommend fruit baskets or other stupid items from the vip store
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03-31-2010, 12:46 PM
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#22
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 22,778
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
You can't use concierge so probably the 5400 fpp sats, just avoid the regs.
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03-31-2010, 01:03 PM
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#23
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Buenos Aires
Posts: 993
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
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Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator
You can't use concierge so probably the 5400 fpp sats, just avoid the regs.
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is this the Sunday Million sat? 10 players 4 seats and then unregister from the event?
what aprox cashes do you have in these ones?
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03-31-2010, 02:05 PM
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#24
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Donkville
Posts: 31
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Re: HUD for Superturbos or hyper-turbos
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Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator
use one then, read the instructions in HEM..it's ez
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I was not really asking how to use a HUD. I am quite familiar with the HEM software have ample experience with it in regular speed SNGs. My previous post was questioning HEM's HUD effectiveness in Superturbo/hyperturbo games (if any). As im sure you already know, superturbo/hyperturbos are quite different and thus you would have to configure HEM correspondingly. Therefore I was hoping to hear others opinions about the subject of its usage in this particular situation because I thought that was what the 2p2 forums were for... ty and gl
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03-31-2010, 04:52 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Swamp
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
Why does HUD need to be configured very differently from a regular SNG? Use the HUD recommendations from the HUD discussion thread in the Tools thread for what's already been posted:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...e-sngs-422576/
Get more specific, I'm not understanding what you're after, but I don't play super turbos
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03-31-2010, 06:36 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hobnobbing with the STTF
Posts: 1,965
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Re: what to do with the Pokerstars FPPs?
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Originally Posted by zecasaralegu
how do you profit your FPPs??
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The 280fpp super turbos to the Sunday 1/4Mill are good value
or if you have time the 210fpp 20man to the Sunday 1/4 are possibly the best value.
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03-31-2010, 06:54 PM
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#27
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enthusiast
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 60
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
Apologies in advance for silly question - but this seemed like possibly the right place for it.
I've just recently started multitabling SNGs and feel that part of my biggest edge loss is in timing tells. Is there any software that could show me, for example, the average time it takes a player to take a decision, and they time they took on this particular hand?
i.e. Let's say I have a note that a player taking longer mostly means weak hand, if I had some software that then showed me they'd taken 5 seconds, instead of their average 1 second, the extra info would help to make my decision - obviously this is tricky when multitabling.
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03-31-2010, 07:17 PM
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#28
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Buenos Aires
Posts: 993
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
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Originally Posted by TT6
Apologies in advance for silly question - but this seemed like possibly the right place for it.
I've just recently started multitabling SNGs and feel that part of my biggest edge loss is in timing tells. Is there any software that could show me, for example, the average time it takes a player to take a decision, and they time they took on this particular hand?
i.e. Let's say I have a note that a player taking longer mostly means weak hand, if I had some software that then showed me they'd taken 5 seconds, instead of their average 1 second, the extra info would help to make my decision - obviously this is tricky when multitabling.
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well, some of us (and you) can take a while to act for the simple reason of multitabling and sometimes we have action in 4 o 5 at the same time, so i dont think you can count on that. But if you have a read on some players, nice... dont know if such software exist and i'm sure it would be banned at the poker rooms
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04-01-2010, 02:46 AM
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Charlie Brown of MTTs
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: wat
Posts: 17,365
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
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Originally Posted by TT6
Apologies in advance for silly question - but this seemed like possibly the right place for it.
I've just recently started multitabling SNGs and feel that part of my biggest edge loss is in timing tells. Is there any software that could show me, for example, the average time it takes a player to take a decision, and they time they took on this particular hand?
i.e. Let's say I have a note that a player taking longer mostly means weak hand, if I had some software that then showed me they'd taken 5 seconds, instead of their average 1 second, the extra info would help to make my decision - obviously this is tricky when multitabling.
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No, it doesn't exist and there are so many variables. Internet connections, site animations, how many tables others are playing and on how many sites, scripts, etc... Just work on your game as you always would and thoroughly evaluate play all around. Experience will generally tell you when the time is right to put a lot of faith into a timing tell online.
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04-01-2010, 10:08 AM
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#30
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 572
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****
I notice most play turbo STTs. I find the regular ones to be a lot easier, maybe because at the micros, people don't know what they're doing. Is there a general consensus on this?
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