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07-20-2010 , 06:07 PM
OK, here is a specific example to make it clear what's happening. I created an alias to about 15 regs, and when I run the Overall report on the alias, I get 48,149 hands. If I filter by 2 players, 9-11BB effective stacks, and position equal to big blind, I get 31 hands. If I add a filter for facing PF raise over 5x blinds+antes (i.e. M) to roughly approximate an all-in situation to see how often they call at that stack size, I get 20 hands. Of those 20 hands, they called 10 times (cause they apparently figured out I'm a push maniac) so I have a group of 10 hands that I can see look to be roughly top 35% hands.

Am I doing this right, or is there a better/easier way? It just seems like a tiny sample to make any conclusion from.
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07-21-2010 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by uofi2012
Linecheck: first hand no reads, only recognized BTN so I potted it

Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t1500 M = 33.33
BB: t1500 M = 33.33
Hero (UTG): t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+1: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+2: t1500 M = 33.33
MP1: t1500 M = 33.33
MP2: t1500 M = 33.33
CO: t1500 M = 33.33
BTN: t1500 M = 33.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to t105, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t105, MP1 calls t105, 5 folds

Flop: (t360) A 8 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets t30, MP1 calls t30, Hero calls t30

Turn: (t450) J (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets t30, MP1 calls t30, Hero calls t30

River: (t540) T (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets t210, MP1 folds, Hero folds
looks good
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07-21-2010 , 10:37 AM
I have been incorporating more SNG's into my play instead of straight cash games and was curious about which sng's people suggest, or if it just comes down to personal preference.

I have been having success at don's, but have noticed a little better payout on standard sng's, however, I'm not quite as consistent, 8/10 (don) vs about 6.5-7/10 on (standard).

Any recommendations on which I should focus on, or is it worth while to play in both for experience. Thanks for any comments and input given.
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07-23-2010 , 09:09 AM
I am new to the forum and new to STT NL, please let me know if i am posting in the wrong area. I am studying SnG by Collin Moshman and want to know if you get these cards in early position in the low blinds and have LAGs yet to play should I be folding these? I have been doing so because i felt that I could see these players as aggressive so far but not enough hands played to really place them on any hand ranges but they are in the pot enough to figure they are loose. I have started at the 2.2 STT's.

Thanks!
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07-24-2010 , 04:38 PM
How do you guys go about table selecting SnGs? Up until now I've just been registering for 12 tables all at once and 2-3 regs (who know I'm at least decent) register for the same tourneys. Do you guys register for one table at a time to avoid regs?
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07-24-2010 , 05:06 PM
Just a quick question, folks. I read somewhere them HEM sometimes imports MTTSNGS first tables as 9mans and as such it ****s the adjusted (luck) EV of my regular SNGs. Is this true?

Like suzzer his lifetime graph which waaay off, know what i mean?
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07-24-2010 , 05:12 PM
Yeah don't even bother looking at it. If anything it'l just tilt you for being off...and it's not even true. I play 18s and only use hem for hud stats really
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07-24-2010 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Reasons14
Yeah don't even bother looking at it. If anything it'l just tilt you for being off...and it's not even true. I play 18s and only use hem for hud stats really
Not what i meant, i know its off in them.

Is HEM going to confuse the first tables of MTTsngs with my regular sngs?
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07-24-2010 , 05:18 PM
Not sure it does that using just single tables. I have a few hundred games missing in my HEM compared to sharkscope stats so if it was including some 18/45 tables aswell then that would obviously be the other way round.
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07-24-2010 , 05:25 PM
If you don't make it past the first table, it'll count it as a 9-man.

I think if you get switched to another table at some point (even if it's just to balance tables), it'll see it as an 18-man, but don't quote me on that. If you make it to the final table it'll definitely see it as an 18-man.

Edit: This is on Stars, if you're talking about FT, then I have no idea.
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07-24-2010 , 05:28 PM
I really have no idea, it shows I have 0 10th place finishes
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07-24-2010 , 05:36 PM
Oh yeah, it also just shows every finish as 1 through 9. So if you bust in 18th, it goes in HEM as a 9th place, 10th would go in as 5th, etc.
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07-26-2010 , 03:23 AM
Hi, I'm looking to supplement my cash play with learning some SnG-stuff since it's an area I know very little about. I bought Moshmans book and I'm watching some videos on DC.

Where is a good site to play? Just tilt or stars as usual?
Do you have any series on DC or special book to recommend?

Thanks in advance for your time!
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07-26-2010 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BrandonWalsh
Hi, I'm looking to supplement my cash play with learning some SnG-stuff since it's an area I know very little about. I bought Moshmans book and I'm watching some videos on DC.

Where is a good site to play? Just tilt or stars as usual?
Do you have any series on DC or special book to recommend?

Thanks in advance for your time!
I guess either is fine, i grind at stars. Between full tilt and stars, its stars for me because of better support and better rakeback if you get supernova.
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07-26-2010 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by J0FF4
I guess either is fine, i grind at stars. Between full tilt and stars, its stars for me because of better support and better rakeback if you get supernova.
Thanks for your reponse. At what level does it get difficult? I will start pretty low of course since I have no idea what I am doing, but I'd rather not play micros. What about the 10s or 20s?
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07-26-2010 , 04:33 AM
from the 16s and up u'll meet good players who grind a living.
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07-26-2010 , 04:48 AM
What kind of money can a good $16 grinder make if he puts in a decent amount of time?
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07-26-2010 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BrandonWalsh
What kind of money can a good $16 grinder make if he puts in a decent amount of time?
1 million per year, sriously. Im not gonna tell sry.

check this link: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...ncement63.html
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07-26-2010 , 04:59 AM
Heh, thanks for the link! I will read it and not bother you for a while!
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07-26-2010 , 10:43 AM
Hi,

I have ginded sngs before, but I m playing cash games for the last 9 months or so. Yesterday I played a couple of hyper turbos sng satalties @ stars, and it was amaizing! Even if I played just a couple of them, a question cames into my mind. Does the general rules for sample and BIs aply on these or the nature of the game (variance), or there is outher aprouch on this (maybe bigger samples before I know I m a winning player, and bigger bankroll before moving up?).
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07-26-2010 , 01:28 PM
Quick question thats been giving me a problem. Around the bubble ill be at a point where the table looks something like two big stacks ~4.5k and myself and another opponent will be stacked ~2k and basically at 10 bigs. At this stage in the game ppl say that you should abuse the bubble and try to chip up, but when two ppl are both around 10 bigs at the 5.5's on the bubble, shouldnt i sorta tighten up and try and outlast him?
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07-26-2010 , 02:45 PM
I've played like 150 games of 6max SNG's at the $5 level. They feel pretty soft. I have a 23% ROI right now. Is this sustainable? If not, what is a more common ROI for these games? Also, I'm 16 tabling them now, can I expect a drop in ROI because of this?
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07-26-2010 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kineav23
Quick question thats been giving me a problem. Around the bubble ill be at a point where the table looks something like two big stacks ~4.5k and myself and another opponent will be stacked ~2k and basically at 10 bigs. At this stage in the game ppl say that you should abuse the bubble and try to chip up, but when two ppl are both around 10 bigs at the 5.5's on the bubble, shouldnt i sorta tighten up and try and outlast him?
If you play the outlasting game, there's a good chance you will place third if you even place at all. Just try to pick good spots to chip up.
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07-26-2010 , 07:13 PM
so you really don't adjust your range at all?
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