** Official Basic Hands Thread **

[AMT]

In an effort to clean up STTF, we are creating this thread of beginner level hands. It is exactly what it sounds like. This thread is for any hands posted that are legitimate strategy questions, but incredibly straightforward and without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt easy. Simply put, threads that don't really deserve their own thread but also do not deserve to get locked or deleted.

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[ronmar]

sorry cant post HH Im at work, but Im sure I have this correct.

$11 Ongame STT 10 man blinds 25/50 10 players, effective stacks around 1.4k

Hero is dealt AKo

4 limpers
3 folds
BTN: Hero ??
SB:1400
BB: 1400

Pot is already 275 when it reaches me, How much do I raise?

If I raise to 350, and get at least 2 callers, even if I miss, do I go AI if checked to me , or if get a small donk bet around 100-200? How about 1/2PSB donk bet, it would be instafold right?

Or just make it easier by raising AI, however Im coin flipping with at least 1 or most likely against 2 donks.

I actually folded this hand.

Originally Posted by Hood

Pot 20% of stack = shove.
No way are you "probably coin flipping with at least 1 donk". Donks limp call weaker aces and broadways all the time. Also Donks limp 65s and fold to shoves.

Originally Posted by thewran

ron - I like shoving - 225 is a nice addtion to our stack.

[thenereus]

This seems like an obvious call to me, but is it with the two micro stacks?


Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t3420
CO: t615
BTN: t575
SB: t8890

Pre Flop: (t700) Hero is BB with A A
2 folds, SB raises to t8865 all in, Hero calls t2995 all in

Flop: (t6890) 5 6 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t6890) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t6890) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Originally Posted by RexWoo

It's a call whenever he is pushing more than KK+.

Like always.

It get much much more interesting with KK (you need him to push 50%+)

[Dumbo_89]

What would you guys do in this spot? Shove? Fold?
I really cannot imagine anyone calling here with my stack

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 6 players
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CO: t1305
Hero (BTN): t1550
SB: t2440
BB: t3025
UTG: t3640
MP: t1540

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with Q A
UTG raises to t300, 2 folds, [color=red]Hero?

Originally Posted by RexWoo

A UTG read or stat is the nuts here.

Default is fold vs reg / good, shove vs unknown.

Originally Posted by thewran

shove readless

[i*have*those]

obv fold or snap call?
SB was fairly tight but liked to reraise more than the average player in 11's


Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 4 players
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Hero (BB): t1735
CO: t2275
BTN: t6455
SB: t3035

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with T T
1 fold, BTN raises to t400, SB raises to t3035 all in, Hero ???

Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

Pretty clear fold in the TT hand.

Originally Posted by wiltronic

i*have*those: I guess I fold here and cry........not really sure though, I am going to check this in SngWiz, I have a feeling this will be a fold. If the SB is tight at all as you say it is prolly a fold.

ok, just checked Wiz and no matter what ranges I put BTN and SB on I get QQ+ or KK+ so I guess this is a clear fold.

[Hirle]

First hand of a $5. I have 100BB (Everest). UTG limps. I have TT and...

[limp for set value/raise it up]

Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

Limp.

[thewran]

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 5 players
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Hero (BTN): t815
SB: t4775
BB: t2380
UTG: t2790
CO: t4240

Pre Flop: (t425) Hero is BTN with T Q
2 folds, hero?

SB is lag and calling ax, K9s+, K8o+, qt+. BB is a fish.

1. Is this an easy shove?
2. If not whats your range to shove

Originally Posted by Hirle

1. Yes, you have 4 big blinds and the field is WAY ahead of you. In 3 hands you hit the blinds and that will destroy all your fold equity, you are probably not getting better spots/cards. I actually think this might be a shove vs. any combination of SB and BB calling ranges (they need to start adding hands that you dominate or are ahead of to their calling ranges before loss of fold equity makes this -EV)

Originally Posted by wiltronic

thewran: easy shove

in fact SngWiz shows that you can shove 94% here, so your range is obv. huge. These are spots I am trying to push more from the CO and Btn. Apparently you can be shoving very wide in these spots. I am way to tight in these spots.

[shaharidan]

all players a bit loose
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 10 players
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UTG: t1470
UTG+1: t1520
UTG+2: t535
MP1: t1885
MP2: t1040
Hero (MP3): t2555
CO: t800
BTN: t2315
SB: t1470
BB: t1410

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is MP3 with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t50, UTG+2 raises to t535 all in, 1 fold, MP2 calls t535,
Hero Shove or just get out of the way?

also if i was in a later position say the button, how many callers/raisers before you lay down KK or AA?

Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

Don't fold KK ever, especially here.

donks flat call for half their stack a ton in low-buy ins. I'd quickly shove like TT+,AQ+ depending on read.

[shaharidan]

mostly just wanted to share, but also 2 questions after the hand.
first hand no reads.


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t1500
SB: t1500
BB: t1500
Hero (UTG): t1500
UTG+1: t1500
UTG+2: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1500
CO: t1500

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to t80, 5 folds, CO calls t80, 3 folds

Flop: (t190) Q T A (2 players)
Hero bets t120, CO calls t120

Turn: (t430) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t240, CO calls t240

River: (t910) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t760, Hero raises to t1060 all in, CO calls t300 all in

check reraise the river correct? i figured there was a better chance of inducing a bet then getting value by betting myself.

i was 5 tabling at the time. and this hand screwed up my game worse than any bad beat. i just couldn't get it out of my head. anyone use tricks for getting past stuff, or is it all just experience?

thanks,
mike

Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

Bet more on the flop, more on the turn. River is fine.

[jussblaze420]

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t1500
BTN: t1420
SB: t1480
BB: t1500
UTG: t1500
UTG+1: t1600
Hero (UTG+2): t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG+2 with 6 6
2 folds, Hero calls t20, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t60, 2 folds, SB calls t50, BB calls t40, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t240) 7 6 4 (4 players)
SB bets t220, BB calls t220, Hero raises to t640, MP2 folds, SB calls t420, BB calls t420

Turn: (t2160) 8 (3 players)
SB bets t780 all in, BB raises to t800 all in, Hero calls t800 all in

looking back, i think i should've raised more on the flop. do i shove there? on the turn, i know someone hit the straight, i just wasn't sure i could fold those odds and was reduced to hoping the river would pair the board. all thoughts appreciated thanks.

Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

The pot is like 700 when it gets to you and you raised a whopping 400 more. You should be raising close to the pot which in this case would be half of your stack, in which case you should just shove. It looks a lot weaker and entices weaker calls.

Never, ever raise pf here. You don't want to build a pot with small pairs OOP early in STTs. Not only is it -EV almost always, you're hurting your stack for later on. This would be major spew. Limping is acceptable, but an argument could be even made for folding in very EP.

[mtagliaf]

BTN is a losing player, -11% on SS. I get a free play in the big blind and flop bottom two. Should I be willing to take this to the end?

Full Tilt Poker, $20 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP1: 1,455
MP2: 1,650
CO: 1,440
BTN: 1,790
SB: 1,440
Hero (BB): 1,410
UTG: 1,300
UTG+1: 1,515
UTG+2: 1,500

Pre-Flop: (45) 2 T dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls 30, 3 folds, BTN calls 30, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: (105) 2 T Q (3 Players)
Hero bets 75, UTG+2 folds, BTN raises to 150, Hero ????

Originally Posted by Hattifnatt

3-bet/call or shove.

Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

Get it in ASAP. Shove now. Looks more bluffish and gets more calls from Qx.

[Dumbo_89]

Would it be a losing play to fold here? I'd still have a decent stack to play with for the rest of the tournie.

Poker Stars $1.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): t1520
UTG+1: t1650
MP: t1400
CO: t1180
BTN: t1450
SB: t4280
BB: t2020

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to t80, UTG+1 calls t80, 3 folds, SB calls t70, 1 fold

Flop: (t260) J Q 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t260, UTG+1 raises to t1570 all in, SB Folds, Hero??

Originally Posted by Beerocrat

Never ever ever fold here.

UTG+1 could have a ton of things, most of which you beat. There is a slight chance they flopped a flush, but even if they did you are drawing to the nuts.

Originally Posted by AMT

Re-enforcing the 'never fold' sentiment here for the OP. There's a big difference in having the Ah here vs two aces without the heart because of his chances he could have those likely Axhh hands and now for your redraw equity if you happen to be beat. Fact is, in a 1.20 SNG they show up with so many one pair hands, straight draws on monotone boards and complete junk that even without the Ah, you should just be getting it in vs a random opponent.

[pcvandelay]

Just wanted some input--as an average stack, I'm about to start tossing this at full tables in EP. What is your default play?


Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 7 players
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BB: t1360
Hero (UTG): t1690
UTG+1: t3190
MP: t1215
CO: t1220
BTN: t3860
SB: t965

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG with K Q
Hero?

Originally Posted by Foreman11

pretty standard fold

[mug3n]

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80/t160 Blinds - 4 players
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CO: t4295
BTN: t375
SB: t6710
Hero (BB): t2120

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, SB raises to t500, Hero ...

At that time, villain was 21/7 over a reasonable number of hands. With the BTN shortstacked, what's the line here? Flat and bail on flop if I hit air, or fold? I can't see shoving here. Thoughts on this?

Originally Posted by Beerocrat

This is a fold. The presence of the micro-stack means you have to avoid confrontation at all cost. It's too much of your stack to flat. Shoving would be bad.

If you don't have SNGWiz, I would recommend getting the trial version. This is the kind of stuff you can check easily with the proper software.

[joepeger]

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This may seem trivial but is there any way to avoid this? Seems to happen too often to me. Should I fold the re raise here. Or just reside myself to the fact that this is just something that has to happen. Would open-shoving have been a better option here? I know he will call any way but let me know what you think.

Originally Posted by Cosines11

I really don't think it matters that much. call the all-in regardless.

Originally Posted by wodka88

Well shove it or raise it, just dont fold it.