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04-22-2012 , 07:24 PM

Tottenham Hotspur

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New to table, I guess folding pre is fine, but I got confused on all streets post flop. I think his range is 66/77/88/AA/Axss/Busted flush.

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Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (12,500/25,000 blinds, 2,500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12712592

CO: 750,948 (30 bb)
BTN: 307,987 (12.3 bb)
SB: 89,756 (3.6 bb)
Hero (BB): 760,877 (30.4 bb)
UTG+1: 859,897 (34.4 bb)
UTG+2: 726,106 (29 bb)
MP1: 621,690 (24.9 bb)
MP2: 310,685 (12.4 bb)
MP3: 72,112 (2.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

5 folds, CO raises to 50,000, BTN raises to 75,000, SB folds, Hero raises to 132,855, CO calls 82,855, BTN folds

Flop: (375,710) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets 148,555, CO raises to 297,110, Hero calls 148,555

Turn: (969,930) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 125,000, Hero calls 125,000

River: (1,219,930) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 193,483 and is all-in

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04-22-2012 , 08:06 PM

Zmijovka

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Fold pre plz.

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04-22-2012 , 08:11 PM

V-Delaney

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Snap fold pre, sizing is very bad.
Flop b/f or b/3bai

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04-22-2012 , 08:11 PM

DudeImBetter

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Yeah...preflop is ugly. Really really deep at this point it looks like, to go all maniac with 55 is pretty WTF.

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04-22-2012 , 08:22 PM

therightdeal

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4-betting pre-flop with 55, when 2 people have raised before is just bad imo.

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04-22-2012 , 09:59 PM

Sheebz13

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Looks more like you were confused preflop. Can you explain your thought process with the min reraising going on?

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04-23-2012 , 03:03 AM

Tottenham Hotspur

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Yes, I know i've butchered this hand, but I still don't hate the 4b pre. The last thing i'm expecting is for the raiser to flat. I'm obv willing to get it in vs 3 bettor, but I also think the cold 4b is repping a monster. Post flop I just got so confused, god knows what happened.

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04-23-2012 , 05:16 AM

bibiscus

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the cold 4b is repping a monster

your sizing is bad but anyway do you really think the DB is min3bing with his stack to eventually fold?
fold pre

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04-23-2012 , 05:58 AM

furo

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shove/fold pre given reads

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04-23-2012 , 09:36 AM

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davethedave2

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Fold pre, esp with btns stack

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04-23-2012 , 11:25 AM

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LeProtagonist

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Originally Posted by Tottenham Hotspur

4bet puts you in this position...

ship or fold flop, calling is by far the worst option.

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04-23-2012 , 03:36 PM

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mcbluffin311

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Originally Posted by Tottenham Hotspur

got confused on all streets

Confusion happens. The lesson here is that in the absence of a plan, default to folding. Anything other than folding or shoving pre here almost guarantees a difficult situation (or an easy fold) on the flop.

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Originally Posted by Tottenham Hotspur

I also think the cold 4b is repping a monster

The btn either misclicked or is really awful. Rep'ing a hand against awful players is pointless. However, even a minimally competent player is not 3b/f'ing in his position, either. So any play here other than folding pre is likely ill-conceived.

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04-23-2012 , 07:57 PM

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Mad1Lee

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,830

Such a terrible line fron the begining to the end, are you loco, ese?

It's a donkament, just re-steal pre with bigger raise (like 180ish or even 200ish) and fold to a jam or for the love of God muck your 55 and don't get yourself into terrible spots versus donks oop.

With your line I would 4-bet jam the flop or even c/r jam, your call of V's flop 3-bet it's just bad on so many levels it makes me sad it wasn't me so deep in Storm with your stack.

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04-23-2012 , 08:02 PM

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pig

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Help?

fold pre

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04-23-2012 , 09:24 PM

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younger15

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+1 to folding Pre!

Why is it that you were willing to stack off against villains 3 bet?

Pretty sure I am not ever wanting to do so in such a marginal spot. If your goal was too steal, it is questionable, but at least somewhat comprehendible, but thinking that 55 is going to be in good shape is wishful thinking. Mind you, I don't have info on villain, but you are more than likely never going to be better than a coin flip against his range.

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