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There are def. tons of factors that go into this. Great discussion. Obv CJ thinks I suck b/c literally 2 minutes after reading this post he loaded his set on top of mine

02-12-2009 , 05:02 PM

#27

AMT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rudyard

I think part of the reason why 6% ROI is really good at high stakes is that those 3 players were already there anyway. Add another three regs for a total of 6 and yes, I can see those games being unprofitable.

Does that make any sense? I run bad at phrasing things.

Yeah it makes sense, Darin was just a little confuzzed, unless he's hiding some 10%+ROI at 100s/200s+ nowadays and he isn't telling anyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitlr

Obv CJ thinks I suck b/c literally 2 minutes after reading this post he loaded his set on top of mine

LOLpwned.

02-12-2009 , 05:21 PM

#28

chilin_dude

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicktheone

yeah obv your ROI is gonna be higher but what about your $/hr ?
But well if you "only" drop from 2 tables/hr to get a slightly better ROI (how much did he increased ? 2-3%?) then for sure it should be more profitable I guess.

This is what I agree with.
Screw your ROI give me $ hourly by far.

02-12-2009 , 05:58 PM

#29

Simplicity8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chilin_dude

This is what I agree with.
Screw your ROI give me $ hourly by far.

screw roi
screw hourly
give me $/month

i'd rather make 12k a month making 40$/hr than 10k making 50$/hr, if I don't value those 100 extra hours to be >2k worth

02-12-2009 , 06:32 PM

#30

jurrasstoil

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screw everything, just give me infinite run goooot.

02-12-2009 , 07:06 PM

#31

werd2u

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these threads are getting oldddddddddddddddddddddd

02-12-2009 , 07:22 PM

#32

suzzer99

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Does this mean no werd2u 500th post thread? Dammit I just lost my will to live. I bequeath my computer set up to AMT. Microbet can have my car.

02-12-2009 , 07:47 PM

#33

BicVicTheQuick

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well.....I think what sucks most is waiting 15 minutes before loading your set to avoid the regs, then you register for 20 sng's and once they load up you realize that you are sitting there with at least 3-4 other regs

I really don't understand why ppl. just can't wait a few minutes to load their sets.

02-12-2009 , 08:14 PM

#34

Simplicity8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BicVicTheQuick

I really don't understand why ppl. just can't wait a few minutes to load their sets.

y don't you wait another 15 minutes

02-12-2009 , 08:25 PM

#35

jnfpoker

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Site selection would help your game selection out immensely.

02-12-2009 , 08:38 PM

#36

Cooperman1

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Why is it that most 2+2 STTers seem to play the 16s...

02-12-2009 , 09:41 PM

#37

gerdm07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doublez-Down

FT shortcuts makes game selecting very easy Chillin'. Just use the sharklist feature. Of course you have to actually add names to it so it won't register you in those games with X number of sharks, etc. I currently have mine set to not register me if there are more than two people from my list, but the list probably isn't big enough yet to make much of a difference.

Where is the sharklist feature? Can't find it anywhere and I feel pretty dumb.

02-12-2009 , 09:43 PM

#38

rudyard

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If regs load on top of you and you don't like it, can you not just unreg?

02-12-2009 , 10:04 PM

#39

professor76

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooperman1

Why is it that most 2+2 STTers seem to play the 16s...

Because the $16s offers the best deal in terms of Rake. A comparison of the 2 popular sites

FTP

$11+$1: 9.09% rake
$22+$2: 9.09% rake

Stars
$6+$0.5: 8.33% rake
$25+$2: 8% rake

$15+$1: 6.67% rake (WINNER!)

Of course FTP has RB, but still the rake will be 6.64% after RB. And Stars has its FPP VIP program which is superior.

Oops I am digressing..just to share why the $16s are so popular and reg-infested lately.

professor76

02-12-2009 , 10:51 PM

#40

rohjoh

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I find it funny how these post keep popping up about table selection at the 16's, yet all the people who are complaining continue to play them with each other. The 16's are just too crowded to avoid playing with 2-3+ regs in everyone during the day. I played maybe 60-70 today, and most had at least 3 regs, and most had people who posted above, including op. I tried, "table selecting", but I would have waited all day to find a table without 2-3 regs. But what do I know, going to go load up a set with some regs, and continue my 2000 break even streak.

02-12-2009 , 11:10 PM

#41

CJSaunders

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rohjoh

I played maybe 60-70 today, and most had at least 3 regs, and most had people who posted above, including op. I tried, "table selecting", but I would have waited all day to find a table without 2-3 regs.

Some people try to make me say what I did not say in this thread. The point was to quantify the cost of regs/good players in your games, period. Now everyone can do whatever they want to, and obviously you'll never be able to completely avoid regs at $16s and higher. But it's worth waiting a bit to play only with 2 instead of 4, and that would be my choice.

02-12-2009 , 11:15 PM

#42

Sparta45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitlr

I don't get why people are anti-game select.

EGO

seriously

02-12-2009 , 11:27 PM

#43

mjcace

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I have a feeling this Topic is going to come up more and more often in the next year or so.

02-12-2009 , 11:39 PM

#44

kamel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicktheone

I but I always try not to begin my starting set with others 3-4 regs, even if most of 16's regs are not that good having 8 others nit at the table is never good (and theses days I met a ton of 9/6 type tables)

I would fight and pay to play a table with only 9/6 type of regulars.

02-12-2009 , 11:58 PM

#45

juandadi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mjcace

I have a feeling this Topic is going to come up more and more often in the next year or so.

i was just gonna post the same thing
its sucks cuz it seems as if its gonna be imposible to play with less than 2 regs thougthout the day, every day...

reallly really bad.
. more regs everyday, less tables, fak! no time...

02-13-2009 , 12:24 AM

#46

J-P

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pocers are dying

02-13-2009 , 01:25 AM

#47

werd2u

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Does this mean no werd2u 500th post thread? Dammit I just lost my will to live. I bequeath my computer set up to AMT. Microbet can have my car.

i dont get it

02-13-2009 , 01:28 AM

#48

TruFloridaGator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by werd2u

these threads are getting oldddddddddddddddddddddd

no, they're not.

Thanks, CJ. Awesome post, wake up call.

02-13-2009 , 10:41 AM

#49

Little John

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kamel

I would fight and pay to play a table with only 9/6 type of regulars.

you would probably only do this until you ran out of money.

02-13-2009 , 10:44 AM

#50

Little John

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does having a player like "dana gordon" at my tables help or hurt my roi?

i'm guessing even the bad/losing regs hurt your roi a bit.

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