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08-30-2015 , 03:48 PM
Just to confirm, early on in a tourney this is an easy fold right?

    Poker Stars, $1.32 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37089766

    Hero (MP): 1,494 (74.7 bb)
    CO: 1,484 (74.2 bb)
    BTN: 1,464 (73.2 bb)
    SB: 1,630 (81.5 bb)
    BB: 1,434 (71.7 bb)
    UTG: 1,494 (74.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J J
    UTG calls 20, Hero raises to 80, 3 folds, BB calls 60, UTG calls 60

    Flop: (268) 9 3 8 (3 players)
    BB bets 134, UTG raises to 1,411 and is all-in, 2 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 536 pot
    Final Board: 9 3 8
    Hero mucked J J and lost (-83 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-217 net)
    UTG mucked and won 536 (319 net)



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    08-31-2015 , 12:41 AM
    Any info on opponents? To me it's easy call actually. BB is not strong with his donk bet and UTG could be reshoving wide in this situation.
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    08-31-2015 , 01:13 AM
    no info on villain.... I call.
    Very thin board and he could be chasing draws.
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    08-31-2015 , 06:39 AM
    As I say, early on so not much info. My thoughts were as follows;

    UTG limps, then calls a reraise, then shoves on flop after another raise. I didn't think calling off my whole stack on an overpair would be a great play early on, given that this flop is ideal for an early limpers range.

    Whilst we're on this subject, what could his range be? I've been trying to improve my range analysis but would appreciate someone a little more experienced than myself to provide some thought.
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    08-31-2015 , 03:23 PM
    GF. if u saw utg make moves like that before its ok to call.... but its not the history.... no reason to gamble u sit here... plus its not a turbo table....
    i think my bottom range here is top two...
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    09-02-2015 , 08:09 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hackminz
    As I say, early on so not much info. My thoughts were as follows;

    UTG limps, then calls a reraise, then shoves on flop after another raise. I didn't think calling off my whole stack on an overpair would be a great play early on, given that this flop is ideal for an early limpers range.

    Whilst we're on this subject, what could his range be? I've been trying to improve my range analysis but would appreciate someone a little more experienced than myself to provide some thought.
    This call depends on your type of play. If u have high bankroll for this stakes u can play higher varience game and just call cuz in these stakes its pretty standard and u have more $/h with call for sure. But still if u can't take high varience game and big swings just fold.
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    09-03-2015 , 02:47 PM
    Personally I'm not prepared to take this risk. I hate showing my cards at the best of times, so calling after a donk and a shove is not my style. You could call it the art of fighting without fighting. Wise words Bruce.
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    09-04-2015 , 03:43 AM
    Never folding this readless against two fun players no matter what stakes you're playing...
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    09-04-2015 , 11:07 AM
    I think folding here WITHOUT history is too tight.
    I don't see that massive jam being a set very often at all.
    WHen people flop sets, they like to savour the moment, draw out the experience of having "the nuts". I also don't think it's AA-QQ, as why would they limp instead of raise, overcall the ISO rather than backraise, then go against all of the "slow" play before and massive overjam flop? Doesn't make any sense to me as a sequence. I think it's a draw or A9/K9 most of the time.
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    09-04-2015 , 11:09 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dean1810
    This call depends on your type of play. If u have high bankroll for this stakes u can play higher varience game and just call cuz in these stakes its pretty standard and u have more $/h with call for sure. But still if u can't take high varience game and big swings just fold.
    Taking the higher ev play will reduce variance, not increase it.
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    09-11-2015 , 10:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by Colin252
    I think folding here WITHOUT history is too tight.
    I don't see that massive jam being a set very often at all.
    WHen people flop sets, they like to savour the moment, draw out the experience of having "the nuts". I also don't think it's AA-QQ, as why would they limp instead of raise, overcall the ISO rather than backraise, then go against all of the "slow" play before and massive overjam flop? Doesn't make any sense to me as a sequence. I think it's a draw or A9/K9 most of the time.
    this is spot on, my first thought was that the raise is almost always a draw
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