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06-27-2012, 03:18 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Rosario,Argentina
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JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
PokerStars - $6.48+$0.52|15/30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (MP): 1,470.00
CO: 705.00
BTN: 1,535.00
SB: 1,170.00
BB: 2,590.00
UTG: 1,530.00
SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00
Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has J  J
UTG calls 30.00, Hero raises to 100.00, fold, fold, SB calls 85.00, fold, UTG raises to 1,530.00 and is all-in, Hero ??
Villain is 51/13 over 55 hands so I know he isn't very good. What do you think I should here? Can he have QQ+? If he does, I don't understand why he raised all in. I think is more likely for him to have AQ, AK or a pair smaller than mine.
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06-27-2012, 03:25 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 5,516
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Vs a sane guy it's ok to fold. I'm smashing the call button so hard here w/o a good read on his limp/shoev range
He had aces, don't be results oriented!
Yes I am psychic
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06-27-2012, 03:43 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Villain is loose passive, it's not costing him much more to call (I'd raise to 120 pre) surely he happily limp calls with everything that you're way ahead of? Maybe he likes to play AK this way but he's also got KK+ here, Id fold JJ, don't think I could fold QQ.
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06-27-2012, 04:08 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Nitrolling you preflop
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I came ITT to learn how one check-raises preflop.
#imdisappointed
As for the hand, folding is perfectly fine against fishy loose-passive villains.
I don't mind a call either.
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06-28-2012, 08:06 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 386
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Against a 51/13 I have no problems folding this here. I don't expect a villain with such a large gap between VPIP and PFR to be reraising all-in light preflop.
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06-28-2012, 10:35 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Staking
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Random fish definitely do this with enough hands that you can call here. Insta fold vs nit.
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06-29-2012, 08:45 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: @dogzpp
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Given his stats, I'd expect this to be a spazz out most of the time. Can see him having a lot of worse pocket pairs
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06-29-2012, 08:49 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: @dogzpp
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
An irrational opponent taking an irrational line. Not sure why people are assuming rationality.
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06-29-2012, 09:33 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Staking
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Quote:
Originally Posted by dogzpp
Given his stats, I'd expect this to be a spazz out most of the time. Can see him having a lot of worse pocket pairs
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AK/Aq are the most likely here I think
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06-29-2012, 10:55 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
They have 55 so often it's a joke and consequently you click call very very quickly.
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06-29-2012, 11:06 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: @dogzpp
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
They have 55 so often it's a joke and consequently you click call very very quickly.
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This.
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07-02-2012, 10:36 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Rosario,Argentina
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
PokerStars - $6.48+$0.52|15/30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (MP): 1,470.00
CO: 705.00
BTN: 1,535.00
SB: 1,170.00
BB: 2,590.00
UTG: 1,530.00
SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00
Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has J  J
UTG calls 30.00, Hero raises to 100.00, fold, fold, SB calls 85.00, fold, UTG raises to 1,530.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,370.00 and is all-in, fold
Flop: (3070.00, 2 players) 7  A  4
Turn: (3070.00, 2 players) 5
River: (3070.00, 2 players) A
UTG shows K  K  (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows J  J  (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins 3,070.00
I didn't think he had KK, I was expecting something like AQ+ or smaller pairs.
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07-02-2012, 01:29 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Staking
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Re: JJ facing checkraise All in pre flop. 6max $7
He can obv have top of his range here but he has enough weaker hands to make this profitable.
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