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Old 11-10-2008, 05:57 PM   #1
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***IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!- UIGEA related

Everyone should do this. Its really easy. Go to this site:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/genera...date=20071001a


Just copy this message and paste it in the comments if you dont have anything else to say:


The federal agencies responsible for our nation’s economy should not be focused on Internet poker regulations.

Finalization of the UIGEA rules will add additional burdens on our already crippled financial systems.

Internet poker is a game of skill and form of recreation for millions of Americans; it should be exempted from the UIGEA.

Please do not finalize the UIGEA regulations until their impact on our banking systems and average Americans has been fully studied.


Also go to this site and do the same:

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...S-DO-2007-0015

Click the little "add comments" bubble thing on the right side (top line) and go from there.

Cmon people, this is so easy to do. Make sure to comment at both of these sites!


EDIT:
from the poker legislation forum for those that haven't seen the thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...a-regs-338249/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...a-regs-340261/

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Old 11-10-2008, 06:05 PM   #2
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Re: IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!

It only takes 15 seconds and will definitely affect the future of online poker, not only for U.S. players but for players abroad if this is passed. Please take the time to do this.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:08 PM   #3
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Re: IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!

I get an error msg for the first link and have no idea how to go from the homepage of the 2nd link. Doesn't seem easy at all, but I'd like to help if it was made so.

I believe the admins will be making an announcement about any new developments this evening so hopefully everyone will follow suit in all forums with these actions.

Isn't the introduction of the stipulation for games of skill still active/a factor in this? This action taken my Barney Frank wasn't done all that long ago, even with the rules being finalized for UIGEA shouldn't we still 'have a shot'?
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:21 PM   #4
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...is where you lost me. Lies told to achieve a good and righteous result are still lies.
Where did he lie? Are you saying A) The finalization of the UIGEA rules will not add additional burdens on our financial institutions or B) Our financial system is crippled?

If B, then it's pretty irrelevant and it's just a talking point. If A, then you need to review statements made by the likes of the American Bankers Association, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and about a dozen other banks that state that this will add additional burdens onto banks. You can review these statements and comments here.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:29 PM   #5
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Re: IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!

Guess some of us are about to join the unemployment line...or ex-U.S resident line....


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Old 11-10-2008, 07:51 PM   #6
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Try reading an article or something dude, it's not a lie.
Guess some of us are about to join the unemployment line...or ex-U.S resident line....

I don't want to hijack this thread any more...but do you actually believe the financial system in the US is crippled? That no money is flowing anywhere? That you're just minutes or trades or legislation away from Zimbabwean inflation rates and another depression? That Walmart is about to shut it's doors and McDonald's will have no more hamburgers?

I'm very comfortable pouring more money into the stock market despite potential job insecurity...working for a company that was recently de-listed from the exchange.

That all said...I'm behind anything that will open up the U.S. market to online poker. I fully agree with the sentiments.
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:08 PM   #7
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I don't want to hijack this thread any more...but do you actually believe the financial system in the US is crippled? That no money is flowing anywhere? That you're just minutes or trades or legislation away from Zimbabwean inflation rates and another depression? That Walmart is about to shut it's doors and McDonald's will have no more hamburgers?

I'm very comfortable pouring more money into the stock market despite potential job insecurity...working for a company that was recently de-listed from the exchange.

That all said...I'm behind anything that will open up the U.S. market to online poker. I fully agree with the sentiments.

this is not the place to argue for semantics; banks are all still afraid to loan and people are still hoarding their own money. If this doesn't qualify as "crippled" when also analyzing the trend of our nation's economy over recent years and months, than a serious reassigning of definitions in the dictionary is in order. Again, STOP arguing semantics here on how you define the term 'crippled', as any further posts derailing the significance of this thread will simply be deleted. Stay on track with the message being sent or simply post nothing further. This just isn't the place to argue your point, so please take it elsewhere.
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:15 PM   #8
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Re: ***IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!- UIGEA related

You broke the links when you posted them. They contain literal ..... strings in the URL.
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:18 PM   #9
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You broke the links when you posted them. They contain literal ..... strings in the URL.

should be fixed now
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:24 PM   #10
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Re: ***IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!- UIGEA related

does this mean more bad players on all sites? can i sign if im not a US player?
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:44 PM   #11
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Re: ***IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS!!- UIGEA related

I did the comment form and also sent an e-mail. Three minutes max for both.
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:49 PM   #12
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I did the comment form and also sent an e-mail. Three minutes max for both.
+1

Also, perhaps "threatened" would be a better word than "crippled" imo. I also added that the proposal would increase costs and/or reduce revenue for the American banking system as a whole.

Do it people. Cha is never wrong!

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Old 11-10-2008, 08:54 PM   #13
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does this mean more bad players on all sites? can i sign if im not a US player?
I think so. I had to pick United States from a drop down menu when filling out my address and all the other countries where there to choose from.

Of course, we don't have much of a history of giving a rats ass what foreigners think so they might just toss your comments....
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:13 PM   #14
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Done. Bump if you're cool and do this.
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:39 PM   #15
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Done.
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