Good evening.

Since yesterday evening iam thinking about two hands.
One i played by my self and one i saw on a FT.

First my hand:
CO: 273,456 (45.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 769,478 (128.2 bb)
SB: 418,377 (69.7 bb)
BB: 612,961 (102.2 bb)
MP: 481,728 (80.3 bb)

Preflop: (3,000) Hero is BTN with A J
2 folds, Hero raises to 15,000, SB folds, BB raises to 612,361 and is all-in, Hero folds

first looks like a easy fold, but i need to add that the BB was playing since beginning at the FT (and i think on the table before as well) like a maniac.
raising every hand with 4 or 5 BBs calling with third pair etc....

I folded because of the fact that i have a greet position and its not need that i risk nearly my completed stack on a 60/40 or flip in best case.

the second hand is more interesting.
I was watching the FT from the Sunday storm
Situation:
SB: 5BB
BB: 37BB
CO: 6BB
BTN: 42BB

since around 5 or 6 hands the BTN decided to go all in every hand.
same case here.
SB folds and BB calls with AKo.
BTN shows 108o flops that straight and take the BB out of the tournament.

Now my question here what do you think should you fold as BB because you have short stake on the left and right or should you take the chance and gamble it up with the maniac BTN?
price structure was
16k
12k
8k
6k i think.
let me know..

thanks already

regards

Mr. Smoke

P.S. my tounament was ending with this hand... ^^ cooler at the end...

SB: 2,002,864 (200.3 bb)
Hero (BB): 553,136 (55.3 bb)

Preflop: (2,000) Hero is BB with Q Q
SB with J J
SB raises to 30,000, Hero raises to 70,000, SB raises to 140,000, Hero raises to 552,136 and is all-in, SB calls 412,136

Flop: (1,106,272) Q 9 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (1,106,272) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (1,106,272) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

fold fold ul

wow sick shove for 102bb

1) fold
2) dont fold

both pretty trivial

doesn't ICM make AK a fold?

thanks

I agree on the first hand that it was at the end a easy fold. I just wanted to see if i was right with my thiniking about the first hand.

But i see that there are different conclosion how to handle the second one?