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03-08-2017 , 09:12 AM

Pejep

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 115

Poker Stars, $3.11 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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SB: 1,468 (73.4 bb)
BB: 1,428 (71.4 bb)
UTG+1: 2,044 (102.2 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 1,488 (74.4 bb)
MP1: 1,388 (69.4 bb)
MP2: 399 (20 bb)
MP3: 2,644 (132.2 bb)
CO: 1,266 (63.3 bb)
BTN: 1,375 (68.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 60, 2 folds, MP3 calls 60, CO calls 60, 2 folds, BB calls 40

Flop: (277) J

(4 players)
BB bets 160, Hero raises to 400, 2 folds, BB calls 240

Turn: (1,077) 8

(2 players)
BB bets 965 and is all-in, Hero folds

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03-08-2017 , 01:42 PM

Ronny Mahoni

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,452

You could call.

You should raise a bit more on the flop, so you got a nice SPR to shove on turn. And also give him worse odds to draw.

The spot sucks, but there really isnt much you can do better. What you can change is your attitude towards it. For example, if you believe he has you beat here you could be thankfull that he let you get away so cheap.

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03-08-2017 , 04:23 PM

SanchezDaKid

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Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 55

I really don't think you could change much, you didn't do much wrong, however I would prefer either re raising or folding on the flop. I know that folding pocket Queens seems crazy with two under cards but it's so early in a tournament and there is going to be much better spots, I never feel bad about letting Queens or worse away when the blinds are small and you shouldn't too.
If he had you beat then you lost a lot more than other people would so you can be happy about that.

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03-08-2017 , 08:59 PM

SharkytheFish

adept

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,114

Wp, Plenty of people will advise flatting otf but I favour a raise. You can get called by plenty of worse hands [draws] and on this flop texture your also betting for protection. Turn fold is good. Villain has A10 or 10s a lot here. Even villain's semi-bluffs have good equity against your hand.

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03-08-2017 , 09:05 PM

Pejep

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 115

Thanks, i thought so as well. I did put Villian on a hand like J10

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03-08-2017 , 09:15 PM

Pejep

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Villian is super loose and are playing 87% the last 21 hands. Doesn't raise flop. always call

Poker Stars, $3.11 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 1,431 (71.6 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,491 (74.6 bb)
UTG+1: 1,431 (71.6 bb)
UTG+2: 1,648 (82.4 bb)
MP1: 1,491 (74.6 bb)
MP2: 1,491 (74.6 bb)
MP3: 1,121 (56.1 bb)
CO: 1,878 (93.9 bb)
BTN: 1,518 (75.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

4 folds, MP3 calls 20, CO folds, BTN raises to 60, SB raises to 100, Hero calls 80, MP3 calls 80, BTN calls 40

Flop: (427) K

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BTN bets 260, SB folds, Hero calls 260, MP3 folds

Turn: (947) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 500, Hero calls 500

River: (1,947) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 655 and is all-in, Hero calls 628 and is all-in

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03-09-2017 , 03:07 AM

SanchezDaKid

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Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pejep

Villian is super loose and are playing 87% the last 21 hands. Doesn't raise flop. always call

How should i play QQ in this spot different

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4 folds, MP3 calls 20, CO folds, BTN raises to 60, SB raises to 100, Hero calls 80, MP3 calls 80, BTN calls 40

Flop: (427) K

: J

: A

: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BTN bets 260, SB folds, Hero calls 260, MP3 folds

Turn: (947) 7

: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 500, Hero calls 500

River: (1,947) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 655 and is all-in, Hero calls 628 and is all-in

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AT shouldn't be getting called from mid position here as you will invite more players in to the pot and AT flops horribly. Once a raise has came in you could possibly call it but have to play OOP the whole hand and when a re raise comes in you certainly have to fold. Even if your ace comes up you can easily be outkicked and lose a lot of money early in a tournament.

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03-13-2017 , 08:54 PM

Pop.

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 423

given is a 3$ raising flop is good, since youre ahead of his donk calling range

turn is a fold

nh, move on

...as for the A10....calling the raise to 60 is good...but when it gets reR to 100 its bad

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03-14-2017 , 05:12 AM

Captain-Hindsight

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,114

Next time make two posts please. Still would like to discuss H1

Why does everyone advocate raise? I assume it's r/f? Seems bad BC a lot of players would shove JT T9 89 and fold Jx

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