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02-10-2012, 11:08 PM
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#1036
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Morgue
Posts: 1,153
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
got 9k hands on u.
winning (chips) = -$2.5k
EV adjusted (chips) = -$6k
So basically in games u play with me, you run pretty much even, maybe slightly good.
Again, this is not a vs me stat. its just games i was playing in with you, even if we didnt face off in that game
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02-11-2012, 08:19 PM
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#1037
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journeyman
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Costa Rica
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
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Originally Posted by horvyjoe
+1
I don't like it. I have to check the lobby too often, really anoying. This is not the way I like to play. Fifty's about grinding, so let us grind there!
I vote for no restrictions, or make a higher limit, min. 10-15 tables.
Who were bothered by the flooded lobby, and why is it a problem?
If i want to play on $100 stakes, i just filter it, and sort by the number of players enrolled there. The games on the top will start first, it's so easy. You don't have to deal with the other 30 generated tables.
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There was a lot of clamoring in this thread for it
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...stars-1153760/
Really not much dissent, I don't completely get it either and tried to mention a potential compromise where there is a default filter of 4 tables showing for every player that you could turn off so you could mass register(mentioned in more detail there). That idea however fell on deaf ears and didn't even garner a response from the rep (despite bringing it up for a 2nd time asking simply for a response on the idea). If you guys don't like these changes I suggest you speak up there as it doesn't appear Walmsley is following this thread.
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02-12-2012, 05:36 AM
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#1038
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newbie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 29
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
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Originally Posted by horvyjoe
+1
I don't like it. I have to check the lobby too often, really anoying. This is not the way I like to play. Fifty's about grinding, so let us grind there!
I vote for no restrictions, or make a higher limit, min. 10-15 tables.
Who were bothered by the flooded lobby, and why is it a problem?
If i want to play on $100 stakes, i just filter it, and sort by the number of players enrolled there. The games on the top will start first, it's so easy. You don't have to deal with the other 30 generated tables.
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Yeah the lobby held no problems at all for me and wa ssurprised they changed it. I'm actually dealing with it better than expected but it was still easier with no limits. I did complain about it and was hoping a few high rakers would.
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02-13-2012, 04:30 AM
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#1039
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 97
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
Had this hand come up earlier today and thought it was interesting. What would your calling range be here? And what range would you give MP and CO. UTG will be all in in the BB next hand:
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200.00/t400.00 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 1636233
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
SB: t1200.00 3 BBs
Hero (BB): t1315.00 3.29 BBs
UTG: t295.00 0.74 BBs
UTG+1: t1960.00 4.90 BBs
MP: t1060.00 2.65 BBs
CO: t6120.00 15.30 BBs
BTN: t3050.00 7.62 BBs
Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BB with 9  9
2 folds, MP raises to t1010, CO raises to t6070, 2 folds, Hero ?
Last edited by akidagain; 02-13-2012 at 04:36 AM.
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03-02-2012, 05:05 PM
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#1040
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 43
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
What resource(book/video series/etc) do you think is best to read/watch for fifty50(even if the resource is not about f50)?
And does anybody know if the video Everything You Wanted To Know About Poker (But Were Afraid to Ask) DVD [from PokerStars VIP STORE -> New] for 1300FPP a good buy?
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04-10-2012, 09:55 PM
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#1041
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newbie
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 27
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
Quote:
Originally Posted by akidagain
Had this hand come up earlier today and thought it was interesting. What would your calling range be here? And what range would you give MP and CO. UTG will be all in in the BB next hand:
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200.00/t400.00 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 1636233
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
SB: t1200.00 3 BBs
Hero (BB): t1315.00 3.29 BBs
UTG: t295.00 0.74 BBs
UTG+1: t1960.00 4.90 BBs
MP: t1060.00 2.65 BBs
CO: t6120.00 15.30 BBs
BTN: t3050.00 7.62 BBs
Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BB with 9  9
2 folds, MP raises to t1010, CO raises to t6070, 2 folds, Hero ?
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since UTG is extremely short, I'd call with QQ+
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04-11-2012, 06:53 PM
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#1042
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newbie
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 48
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
STTs are so hard
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04-12-2012, 07:31 PM
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#1043
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newbie
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 27
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
Quote:
Originally Posted by akidagain
Had this hand come up earlier today and thought it was interesting. What would your calling range be here? And what range would you give MP and CO. UTG will be all in in the BB next hand:
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200.00/t400.00 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 1636233
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
SB: t1200.00 3 BBs
Hero (BB): t1315.00 3.29 BBs
UTG: t295.00 0.74 BBs
UTG+1: t1960.00 4.90 BBs
MP: t1060.00 2.65 BBs
CO: t6120.00 15.30 BBs
BTN: t3050.00 7.62 BBs
Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BB with 9  9
2 folds, MP raises to t1010, CO raises to t6070, 2 folds, Hero ?
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It mostly depends on who MP is but I would call TT+.
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06-14-2012, 06:42 PM
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#1044
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stranger
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 11
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
The games are totally rigged, 170.000 chips below EV in 7 days, I die.
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06-14-2012, 06:55 PM
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#1045
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Morgue
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
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Originally Posted by JTM210577
PokerStars is totally rigged, 170.000 chips below EV in 7 days, I die.
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FYP
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06-15-2012, 11:22 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Czech Rep.
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
wayneking7: what do play ? still fiftys ?
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06-15-2012, 07:42 PM
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#1047
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Morgue
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
yes. and some hypers now also
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06-19-2012, 05:11 PM
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#1048
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 301
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
The problem with the STTs is that everyone at the mid-high stakes has beaten up ranges to death with ICM calcs so the games are played close to optimal in a Game Theoretic sense.So even if there is a fish now and then or someone who has leaks the rake takes care of that.The only reason to play them is if you are chasing a SNE or smth and relying on rakeback for profit.
also since stacks get so short so fast and most situations are fairly automatic its very bad for your development as a poker player.
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06-26-2012, 12:18 AM
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#1049
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 275
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
Poker Stars, $14.31 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13339342
Domrachev (SB): 505 (1.3 bb)
ICANTSNG (BB): 5,428 (13.6 bb)
gigety (UTG): 1,615 (4 bb)
larkin49121 (MP): 336 (0.8 bb)
buitre18 (CO): 1,210 (3 bb)
Hero (BTN): 5,906 (14.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8  4 
3 folds, Hero raises to 5,856 and is all-in, Domrachev calls 255 and is all-in, ICANTSNG calls 4,978 and is all-in
Flop: (11,511) 6  Q  7 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: (11,511) 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: (11,511) 2 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Results: 11,511 pot
Final Board: 6  Q  7  9  2
Domrachev showed 5  A  and lost (-505 net)
ICANTSNG showed A  2  and won 11,511 (6,083 net)
Hero showed 8  4  and lost (-5,428 net)
did I just get owned or is this ever a call ?
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06-26-2012, 03:21 AM
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#1050
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Morgue
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Re: Fifty50 strat/RoI Discussion
U got owned. A2o is def a call after SB calls (A5s lol... anyhoo) A2o nearly even a call if SB folds. Tho i think A3o+
All assuming u are ATC
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