Good Afternoon All,

Played this hand yesterday, just looking on opinions / lines to extract the most value with this hand / how you would have played it.

Cheers

JB

Going to need information on BB. Checking flop is fine.

After flop, hand kind of played itself from there on out.

I agree you got lots of value from your hand. most of the time i prefer cbeting as you can grow the pot but the problem is your range is all over this flop, as regards Ax. so we are going to lose our customer so often. basically he has to have the case ace or a lower set or a2 or a4s or a flush drawer for us to get any value from this hand. over his very wide range this as read sounds like a lot of hands but mostly he is just folding to c bet.
I think you got max value.
Mind you if i played this hand today i would just fold river as he has QJh thats how they run this week lol.

Pretty much that.

I guess you could go slightly smaller pre but I don't think that changes the callers we get here very drastically (if at all). As said checking flop is fine and as said below it does look like you got the max here (or viciously outplayed- but most likely the max)

Readless at these stakes i raise turn.

UR, this is basically the last flop in the world you want to cbet.

I had been confusing this thread with a similar my mistake and thanks for the rectification Ruse, what I had intended to state was that you should raise 4xBB from EP so as to isolate any loose passive players from the rest of the table, more info on the BB is needed, if he is passive but loose then you should always be raising more than 3xBB in early position with more premium holdings so as to extract the maximum amount of value possible, checking the flop and calling the turn are both fine it seems you gained the maximum value you could have.

Tough to 4bet when there isnt a 3bet. He also didnt bet the turn, he called villains bet.

Thanks for the replies and tips guys!

Chanty: I will look at possibly having a bigger EP/UTG Raise of 4x

And for Everyone: Stat Wise: 24/8/0 over 108 Hands

Cheers

JB

You saying him to try 4x preflop with AA to isolate loose players ..... if you saying him that then your so wrong and put him on wrong way lol ...........You cant 4 x preflop with AA never and dont do that .... preflop you should at that blind level open 2.5 x not even 3 x ........ as played checking flop is good and beting turn is good ...... GL

1.50 buyin tho

Against a passive player at the $1.50s, I am cbetting this flop all day - this guy is meh passive so I could go either way. I also track flop AFq in my HUD - if some guy is 100%, I will definitely check so he can hang himself.

Sorry what? So if you was UTG+1 with AA at a micro stakes table such as this likely to be filled with LAG/passive fish, you would open 2.5x? Your likely to pick up any number of callers ranging from 1-4, which will severely devalue your AA post flop.

You open 2.5x like you suggested OP should, now suppose the board texture is unfavourable , any one of those LAG/passive callers could have connected, with the size of the pot how it is after your 2.5x open and multiple callers a shove is very likely, are you going to call here when your AA is likely to be behind, and players still to act? In essence raising such a small amount is just going to induce looser players to call just for the primary reason of seeing a flop, all you are doing is making it hard to continue with your AA by creating a spot where you are playing in a multi way pot OOPS against loose players with a very wide hand range.

In EP with AA you should be looking to limit the field of players and extract value in a heads up pot, any body will tell you AA is far from the best hand in a multi way pot, if what I have said is wrong I am sure some of the more experienced players will correct me however.

You cant with AA scared others and make evryone fold on your 4x , again i am saying for long run not for just 1 tourney becouse poker is playing for long period .

In the long run your going to be more unprofitable with AA by encouraging multi way pots with the hand at these stakes.

Ask yourself how much time evryone will fold when you 4 x with AA .....

At a $1.50 buy in STT SNG not that often actually.

At lower blind levels, def a lot of calls preflop, even 4x'ing. However at 50/100, not so many calls 4x'ing - even at a $1.50

That is the aim, not to generate so many calls, I played this limit exclusively when I started SNG'S and found 3.5x and 4x to be profitable, limiting the field and inducing calls by 1-2 LAG/passive players.

This is just what I have found after playing this limit, so drawing on my own experience here, do what works for you of course, if opening 2.5x is working for you do it.

I have generally found that the quality of player at these limits is inclined to call a 2x open just as much as they are a 2.5x and 3x, often the loose fish type players found in these game are going to play a hand they 'fancy' regardless of the price. And once one player calls your 2x/2.5x open you can often start a snowball effect on loose tables, not ideal with AA.

Again if you feel 3.5x and 4x from EP is non conventional, or that you want to get as many callers as possible with your AA so wish to opt for opening a lesser amount of 2x/2.5x at micro stakes fish invested games, then by all means do so if it works for you.

I get your point - and generally agree. I was just making the point that if you 2x at higher blind levels, you generally don't get a ton of calls, even at $1.50s. So you could scare away players with a 4x, when a min open will work fine. At the lower blind levels, you can 10x and still get a bunch of calls.

On the other hand, I see bad reg's who, when they open raise, will min raise like 3% of the time and go all-in the rest of the time - it becomes pretty easy to tell what they are playing when.