so i was curious about 15bbish stack play when i'm utg/utg1. And I found out that nash suggests jamming with JJ+ ATs+ KJs+ KQ AJo+. feels surprised that 88-TT isn't in the get it in range...is nash being too conservative or im shoving too wide?

here's the link to the nash calculator.

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...8=1500&s9=1500

You shouldn't be shoving 15 bb stacks period regardless of being unexploitable. You should have a raise fold game all the way down to 12 bbs especially utg so when that 10/8 with a 3% 3 bet jams on your ATs you can fold, being exploitable is going to yield a much higher ROI and allow you to do better as you move up buyins.

does that apply to mtt or only sng?

seems like with 13-15bb when ante is in play with 88-TT it's pretty standard to open jam. no?

When there is ante in play, you calculate the total of ante add 2/3 of it to the BB and 1/3 on the SB and do calculate your effective stack in BB again.

It's prolly to do with card removal: if you look at what is calling you then it's real tight ranges with nearly all aces and kings and having one of those in your hand significantly reduces the % chance of being called hence why KQ/KJs is there (I'm off out in a minute but you just need to count the possible combinations of their calling hands with and without and see how the fraction reduces, etc).

Juk

Pretty not standard. Anyone who is jamming 13 bbs UTG is going to struggle in any buy in above $15. I don't think minus misclicking or being overwhelmed (coming back from bathroom mid session to having no timebank) I've ever even jammed 12 bbs utg.