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.5 - bluff but how .5 - bluff but how

01-28-2015 , 12:31 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds 2 Ante (6 handed)

SB (t512)
Hero (BB) (t480)
UTG (t460)
MP (t544)
CO (t470)
Button (t534)

Hero's M: 11.43

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 5
1 fold, MP calls t20, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t62) Q, 4, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t182) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets t40, Hero raises to t140, MP calls t100

River: (t462) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t258 (All-In), MP calls t258

Total pot: t978

Spoiler:

Hero had 6, 5 (one pair, fours).
MP had J, 9 (two pair, nines and fours).
Outcome: MP won t978




Pre: always a check
Flop: I would normally fold 99.9% of the time, but here I had a read that he was weak. Thus I check-called with the intention to a) make a straight; b) miss the turn and fold to a decent turn bet; c) bluff him on the river if he shows weakness on the turn.
With hindsight I might consider check-shoving, but I will get called a lot.
Turn: weakness - I could check-shove, but a smaller raise looks stronger. I represent two pair or better (a "big blind special").
River: I insta-shove and think that this should get folds up to QT. But what do I know ...

Any comments?
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01-28-2015 , 03:10 PM
It was a good play overall. He just had the type of hand you were representing.
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01-28-2015 , 03:31 PM
In those hyper-turbo games there's not much space to do fancy things with your chips, as you easily get pot commited.

I think it was a good play also. But I'd probably do different, jamming on the flop with 8 outs to the straight. This way, you've got a lot of fold equity and, if he called, you'd still have about 33% chance of hitting the straight.

I think calling the flop with 60 chips is kinda expensive in that game, as if you don't hit the straight on the turn (which is more than 80% probable) you get in a difficult spot and it also gives your opponent a chance to improve his hand. In hyper turbo STTs I tend to see turn and river for free when I get the chance, or jam on the flop to leave the decision to the others with still two cards to come.

Anyway, it is a matter of style. I'm not saying your play was wrong, I'd only make it different.

Last edited by emarcolino; 01-28-2015 at 03:53 PM.
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01-31-2015 , 11:22 PM
Dont bluff so much. Poker is not about winning every pot.
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02-01-2015 , 09:43 PM
Snapfold flop, call turn, checkfold river. You won't become a winner doing this against fish.
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02-02-2015 , 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Snapfold flop, call turn, checkfold river. You won't become a winner doing this against fish.
bet-fold the flop vs limper but yeah
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02-03-2015 , 11:05 PM
Why did you read the flop pot bet as weak? Normally a pot bet from a weak player is a sign of strength.

Turn: you're representing two pair. Don't make the mistake of putting yourself on a strong hand when you're weak and then expect the villain to fold to your bluff because you think he should fold a bunch of his range.

If you think he may fold up to QT, then really, you could be profitably going insane and bluffing here with every single bad hand you have. Obviously that is not a sound strategy, so you can see there is an error in hoping or expecting villain to fold a decent top pair hand especially to only a half pot bet.

The thing is the 9 on the turn does nothing to your range to make it stronger. Villain may not be clever enough to consider ranges, but he is likely clever enough to see when an obvious draw or scare card hit the turn, and this was not one of them.

I will say that this would be a great line if you actually did have a good 2 pair hand, reason being is because I wouldn't expect villain to fold any decent piece of the board the way your sizing flowed.

When you check call here on the flop with 65o and you want to bluff in the future, it's better to do on obvious cards, like lead any club or 7 turn with your specific hand then consider jamming a lot of rivers if you're flatted. Facing that line I think you could get villain to fold 2nd pair and some guys would even fold top pair, and it's balanced and effective since you'd play your 7's and flushes that way.
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02-04-2015 , 10:50 AM
To add on to sippins analysis (which was awesome).

Always keep in mind, when trying to bluff someone, what cards can potentially scare villain. In this hand, you can use any (if he isnt on a draw himself obv), King and Ace to push villain off a Queen.

But if you change the flop to T74, then you can also use Jacks and Queens as bluff cards.
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