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bit of a funky spot 3.30 SNG ACR bit of a funky spot 3.30 SNG ACR

05-16-2017 , 06:35 PM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 75/150 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 5.43 BB (VPIP: 17.59, PFR: 2.80, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 108)
CO: 20.85 BB (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 24.49, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
BTN: 20.61 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 4.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
SB: 1.96 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 50)
Hero (BB): 8.18 BB
UTG: 17.81 BB (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
UTG+1: 15.16 BB (VPIP: 18.35, PFR: 9.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 110)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 1.96 BB and is all-in,


Just funky b/c it folded around to me and I'm also a short stack. I'm thinking I call this almost every time, yeah?
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05-16-2017 , 08:55 PM
It's an opportunity to knock a player out for less than 1bb more. You don't even need to think about this. Even the nittiest opponent will shove atc here, with almost no equity left in the tournament. I'm more interested in what sbs stack size would need to be before you could consider a fold in this spot.
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05-22-2017 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkytheFish
It's an opportunity to knock a player out for less than 1bb more.
Yo

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Originally Posted by SharkytheFish
You don't even need to think about this.
Not a good approach to improve at poker


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Originally Posted by SharkytheFish
Even the nittiest opponent will shove atc here
No they won't. It would be even wrong to do so if BB is calling 100%, gto jam range is 88%...

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Originally Posted by SharkytheFish
I'm more interested in what sbs stack size would need to be before you could consider a fold in this spot.
You can fold 32o if he is jamming less than 12.2% aka 44 A7s A9o KJs.
You can fold 98s if he is jamming less than 3.3% aka JJ AQs AKo.
Yeah result is you never fold with these stacks, but it helps to know why
To your question:
If he had the exact same stack as you (more is irrelevant), 98s is a -0.5% in nash ranges btw. It breaks even at around 1k chip stack and a nash jamming range (around 66% then) for him. It breaks even earlier if he jams more than that and later if he jams less.

For reference: All calculations based on ICM model, not FGS.

gl at the tables!

Last edited by LeaksSuck; 05-22-2017 at 07:35 AM.
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05-25-2017 , 03:07 PM
Thanks, I could have phrased that more carefully. I wasn't advocating non analysis but it's so glaringly obvious a call that discussing a fold isn't merited. It's still good to see the ranges calculated.
Virtually every opponent is shoving atc here. Assigning a player a shoving range less than atc in this spot is a mistake as your so unlikely to encounter such a player.
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05-25-2017 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkytheFish
Assigning a player a shoving range less than atc in this spot is a mistake as your so unlikely to encounter such a player.
You can filter for this setup in your database and just find out that the jamming range isn't 100% empirically. Also it's wrong to jam 100% if u know bb is calling gto, so I'm not sure why you insist on a range that is both wrong and not what ppl actually do
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05-26-2017 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LeaksSuck
You can filter for this setup in your database and just find out that the jamming range isn't 100% empirically. Also it's wrong to jam 100% if u know bb is calling gto, so I'm not sure why you insist on a range that is both wrong and not what ppl actually do
Thanks, I haven't done that. I don't think this spot would have occurred enough over the 10k sngs I'v played to provide a worthwhile sample. I said virtually every opponent will be jamming 100%, not that they should be.
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