PokerStars - $6.45+$0.55|25/50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: 1,455.00
MP: 2,067.00
MP+1: 798.00
LP: 1,355.00
CO: 1,665.00
BTN: 1,125.00
Hero (SB): 1,950.00
BB: 1,525.00
UTG: 1,560.00

Hero posts SB 25.00, BB posts BB 50.00

Pre Flop: (75.00) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 150.00, BB raises to 400.00, Hero calls 250.00

Flop: (800.00, 2 players) 5 2 8
Hero bets 400.00, BB raises to 1,125.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 725.00

Turn: (3050.00, 2 players) 4



Villain is a 29-24-60 with a measily sample size of 25 hands.

Do you make this call?

All in over his 3bet preflop. Ranges are wider vblind versus blind.

As played, I think check shove is probably a little better than bet call.

+2

Agreed with all of this. You might be flipping pre, but I still think it's a 4bet shove.

def shove pre, as played...c/shove.

Calling 3bet is not good preflop, why put in a ton of your stack oop to c/f numerous flops? As played on flop I like leading, but think 210-255 is a better sizing

I don't at like getting it in preflop at all and think you guys are crazy. How many people are 3betting to 400 with a bunch of middling Ax/broadway hands we need to have in their range? I think medium pairs/strong Ax making up a big portion of the average range here. Sometimes people 3/call A9 A7s KJs etc but that's not many people

With a hand like A2o in the bb, how should he (referring to villain) be playing? Call then fold to a c-bet?

I generally think in bvb situations, both players show up with lighter holdings than a CO versus SB all in situation with similar stack sizes.

I would 3-bet/fold a lot of weak aces in this spot (prob 3betting to 350 instead of 400). Tons of medium pp, worse aces, broadway to make this a shove imo, especially given the amount of money already in the pot.

why u like leading the flop? to take away all his bluff cbets?

4-bet or fold pre
check raising is better than leading
i don't know why i am responding to this thread, everybody's elses answers were sufficient

Took a couple of posts to reply "This" to.

This is a $7 game, most players are not 3betting light. If villain had A2 I assume he would flat or fold. With no reads, he is most probably AQ 1010.

i know smaple size is small but 29/24 is reggish stats

EDIT: oops, thought it was 6-max.

This is a spot I seem to find my self in quite a bit which is why I decided to post it here.

After re-thinking the hand I think a fold preflop would of been a better play for the following reasons:

1) I think a hand like 88-JJ would have shoved in the position.
2) Only AK, AA, KK, QQ would 3 bet here for value.

If the hand continued as shown above:

1) Open shove would have been the best play, maybe I'd have better fold equity at that point then a c-bet (assuming my opponent thinks I will c-bet any 2 cards).

Thoughts?

Purely on odds I'd make the call. You're betting odds are 31%, and odds of making your hand is ~40%. Clear cut call. Could've been played better earlier, methinks.