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Old 07-30-2012, 12:36 PM   #1
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6max open fold A9 on bbl?

Do we simply abide by Wiz here? Wiz says AT+/66+ (Giving calling ranges of 13%SB and 15%BB respectively)

Its just open folding seems too nitty.

Do we have any other options?

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    Old 07-30-2012, 12:46 PM   #2
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    I'd say SB is calling off 6-8% and BB is around 18-22%, unless you have reads otherwise. Don't think you should be doing anything but jamming 12bb here, unless you think opponents will re-ship wide.
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    Old 07-30-2012, 01:28 PM   #3
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    You really think BB calls 18%+? 18% is damn near any ace/pair and a few KTs type hands

    Your 13/15% numbers are too wide. 13% would mean sb is reshoving A8o 44 A5s KQs etc this is a super wide range and this is the very outside of a range for a random someone who isn't totally nuts. 6-9% seems a lot more reasonable. Same thing goes for 15% as the BB

    Next time include info on the villains!

    As a default I think it's a very safe sound play to shove allin
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    Old 07-30-2012, 01:39 PM   #4
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

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    You really think BB calls 18%+? 18% is damn near any ace/pair and a few KTs type hands

    Your 13/15% numbers are too wide. 13% would mean sb is reshoving A8o 44 A5s KQs etc this is a super wide range and this is the very outside of a range for a random someone who isn't totally nuts. 6-9% seems a lot more reasonable. Same thing goes for 15% as the BB

    Next time include info on the villains!

    As a default I think it's a very safe sound play to shove allin
    BB was a fish pretty much never folding an A from BB . and yeh, SB was pretty unknown. i jst couldn't see him folding KQ to my jam id been opening around 40%
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    Old 07-30-2012, 02:34 PM   #5
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    Yeah, if you're opening around 40%, A9 is a pretty sweet hand to pick up and shove.
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    Old 07-30-2012, 10:17 PM   #6
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    Im getting a9o in vs almost every villain.

    Theres also r/f
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    Old 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM   #7
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    A9 is a fine push with 12bb from the button, even moreso if there are randoms in the blinds. Not a lot of better alternatives.

    Rus, A9 is a little too strong to raise fold, and since I would feel gross doing it I just push.
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    Old 07-30-2012, 11:12 PM   #8
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    i was thinking along the line of if youre mr your entire range but yeah r/f here is usually gonna be super bad.
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    Old 07-31-2012, 09:17 PM   #9
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    your calling ranges are too wide. maybe they are OK for ten bb but you have to adjust for the fact you have twelve
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    Old 08-02-2012, 12:40 AM   #10
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    Re: 6max open fold A9 on bbl?

    don't know about the actual math but as the shortest stack with such a strong hand otb, I'm def sticking it in all day.
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